In Reply to: Re: To continue the knee analogy posted by Steve Eddy on January 12, 2004 at 14:33:29:
The fact that there is at least one case in which mechanical stimulus causes an audible result is important. It's not a question of whether the effect exists, it's a question of whether it's releveant/important.The "typical conditions" scenario is much tougher, because we don't have agreement on what constitutes "audible" (or "typical", for that matter).
As we are all painfully aware there is an unresolved gap between the anecdotal reports of audiophiles and the results of attempts to apply a more rigorous testing methodology.
I'm sure that some percentage of the sonic changes that audiophiles report is placebo, or imagination or whatever. I have no idea whether it's 5% or 95%, and neither does anyone else.
I'm also sure that the resolution limit for an obsessed audiophile using their own system to audition changes is v.v. low. I can't say that things happening 100db down aren't audible to some people in some situations.
There's also that tricky problem of measurement. I don't know of any good way to make repeatable measurements using musical signals that gives anything like the required resolution.
Peter
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- Sure, but the "smack" at least shows that something is happening... - Commuteman 15:58:43 01/12/04 (4)
- Re: Sure, but the "smack" at least shows that something is happening... - Steve Eddy 17:02:16 01/12/04 (3)
- Sounds like a reasonable approach. - Commuteman 17:32:05 01/12/04 (1)
- Re: Sounds like a reasonable approach. - Steve Eddy 17:55:59 01/12/04 (0)
- Re: Sure, but the "smack" at least shows that something is happening... - flzapped 22:57:39 01/12/04 (0)