In Reply to: Re: Well, actually, I do know what kind of filter but it's not particularly relevant. posted by john curl on January 24, 2006 at 16:34:39:
Folks, I want to quote something that I said in an interview over 26 years ago and published in 'The Absolute Sound' March 1980. Now, it is off the cuff and not very technical, but I think it gets to the essence of the argument:
"... The designers are mostly interested in removing the aliasing frequencies, so they try hard to be very very far down at 25KHz and very far up--within a decibel--at 20KHz. It's a difficult constraint, because the rest has to go out the window; ringing, phase anomalies, group delay, overshoot, everything is there. They do try to phase compensate the filters and they do improve them somewhat in their phase characteristics, but then other problems occur. Its been proven by Barry Blesser, who's an expert in this field, that even if you phase compensate filters, you get a time problem. You get a time delay displacement, due to the phase compensation network. They are trying to finagle something that is a mathematical impossibility, so thay can only best-fit-it. It is like trying to contain a squishy substance that keeps squirting out somewhere else."
And this was when 50KHz was considered a minimum standard. Can some of you now realize how difficult it is to get 44KHz right? If it is possible at all?
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- Re: Well, actually, I do know what kind of filter but it's not particularly relevant. - john curl 13:51:18 01/25/06 (38)
- Wonder why 96/24 has still not become the standard. nt. - The Sound Guy 20:53:22 01/25/06 (11)
- It's already the minimum pro standard; dvda supports, it, etc.... - Tom Dawson 01:06:29 01/29/06 (0)
- Well, does "overkill" ring a bell, sport? - Silver Eared John 00:00:43 01/26/06 (9)
- Overkill can be good. - jneutron 07:00:29 01/26/06 (8)
- Re: Overkill can be good. - Dan Banquer 17:10:06 01/26/06 (4)
- Re: Overkill can be good. - jneutron 09:58:20 01/27/06 (3)
- Re: Overkill can be good. - Dan Banquer 17:18:22 01/27/06 (2)
- Best of luck ??? - jneutron 07:50:37 01/30/06 (0)
- Re: Overkill can be good. - Tom Dawson 00:41:27 01/29/06 (0)
- Yeah, I got no problem with that. - Silver Eared John 17:05:05 01/26/06 (2)
- Re: Yeah, I got no problem with that. - jneutron 09:54:17 01/27/06 (1)
- Well, on this we can agree... - Silver Eared John 11:51:35 01/27/06 (0)
- Bingo... - Silver Eared John 18:58:13 01/25/06 (9)
- Re: Bingo... - john curl 22:24:18 01/25/06 (8)
- OTOH Barry has blathered too -- not the greatest source. nt - clarkjohnsen 23:36:17 01/25/06 (7)
- Figgered you'd say that. - Silver Eared John 00:00:00 01/26/06 (6)
- A real psychic, you are. Barry's blather is amusingly recounted in my book The Wood Effect, $12.95. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:18:00 01/26/06 (5)
- Well, goodness gracious me.. - Silver Eared John 17:07:09 01/26/06 (4)
- You're a very confused redneck. Never said I "don't like" any of them. In fact... - clarkjohnsen 17:47:14 01/26/06 (3)
- In other words, I was right, slick. - Silver Eared John 09:52:51 01/27/06 (2)
- I've rarely met a man so willfully prone to humorless misreading as yourself. You are now added to the list of... - clarkjohnsen 11:01:30 01/27/06 (1)
- You may not quote me in your book - Silver Eared John 19:03:58 02/08/06 (0)
- Re: Well, actually, I do know what kind of filter but it's not particularly relevant. - Tom Dawson 15:03:02 01/25/06 (15)
- Re: Well, actually, I do know what kind of filter but it's not particularly relevant. - john curl 15:42:58 01/25/06 (14)
- No, I think you can do it at about 17kHz... - Silver Eared John 01:21:31 01/26/06 (13)
- Re: No, I think you can do it at about 17kHz... - john curl 10:48:44 01/26/06 (12)
- Why are you lying????what is going on with you??? - jneutron 11:14:48 01/26/06 (11)
- What are you on about? - Silver Eared John 17:09:49 01/26/06 (4)
- Your inconsistency. - jneutron 07:15:52 01/27/06 (3)
- So, then, y'all really don't understand? - Silver Eared John 09:53:50 01/27/06 (2)
- pshaw...begone.. - jneutron 10:04:03 01/27/06 (1)
- Whoooeeeee - Silver Eared John 14:36:01 01/27/06 (0)
- Re: Why are you lying????what is going on with you??? - john curl 14:59:09 01/26/06 (5)
- Re: Why are you lying????what is going on with you??? - jneutron 07:09:14 01/27/06 (0)
- Re: Why are you lying????what is going on with you??? - Silver Eared John 17:10:42 01/26/06 (3)
- Re: Why are you lying????what is going on with you??? - john curl 09:04:40 01/27/06 (2)
- Jneutron, whoever he is in reality?????? - jneutron 09:40:18 01/27/06 (1)
- Jon, john the piper's son? - Silver Eared John 09:59:04 01/27/06 (0)