The mind can both tell us we hear something and that we hear nothing. Glad you agree nt

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Topic - GSIC observation and query... - Wellfed 22:10:18 06/16/05 (141)

Since no incontrovertible test will ever show that the 'GSIC' improves CD optical transparency as claimed, why bother? - Tom Dawson 00:23:20 06/20/05 (3)

Why bother what? [nt] - Wellfed 21:15:56 06/20/05 (2)

Re: Why bother what? [nt] - Tom Dawson 16:46:01 06/21/05 (1)

I am for real... - Wellfed 21:15:11 06/21/05 (0)

I think, based on my own experiences, - rp1@surfnetusa.com 19:50:57 06/19/05 (4)

"Casual off-axis listening" is extremely important. America's greatest living composer taught me that. - clarkjohnsen 08:04:52 06/20/05 (2)

"And definitely the Chip helps the music at least as much as the audio". Mind telling what that is supposed to mean? nt - bjh 11:54:34 06/20/05 (1)

Geez Luiz, it's self-explanatory. nt - clarkjohnsen 06:56:19 06/24/05 (0)

Non-critical listening is my norm... - Wellfed 20:41:00 06/19/05 (0)

it should be noted... - drclark 20:45:59 06/17/05 (33)

Sorry, I missed that point... - Wellfed 21:17:51 06/17/05 (32)

well... - drclark 08:34:23 06/18/05 (31)

Re: well... - Par Time Punk 03:00:00 06/19/05 (24)

Re: well... - KlausR. 03:18:16 06/19/05 (23)

Re: well... - Par Time Punk 01:01:40 06/20/05 (22)

Re: Believe the hype... - geoffkait 02:48:57 06/20/05 (21)

Has it got the "EC approved" stamp? (nt) - orejones 03:47:14 06/20/05 (20)

Re: The editor and senior reviewer of Hi Fi News liked it... - geoffkait 04:33:05 06/20/05 (19)

Do you know what that approval means? It seems you donÂ´t... (nt) - orejones 04:36:03 06/21/05 (14)

Re: Approval - geoffkait 04:52:39 06/21/05 (13)

QEE (Quod Erat Expectandum) (nt) - orejones 10:27:23 06/21/05 (12)

Re: AAAI (Ad Absurdum Ad Infinitum) nt - geoffkait 14:10:15 06/21/05 (11)

"AAAI (Ad Absurdum Ad Infinitum)" ... a nice definition of the whole GSIC affair, isnÂ´t it? (nt) - orejones 02:31:46 06/22/05 (10)

Re: There's an old French expression, "It takes two to tango." nt - geoffkait 02:57:34 06/22/05 (9)

No Geoff, in France they say:.... - KlausR. 01:06:20 06/24/05 (4)

Re: Klaus, over here we have an expression... - geoffkait 03:26:51 06/24/05 (3)

I see you've fed your bablefish - KlausR. 05:17:46 06/24/05 (2)

Re: Just the facts, Ma'am - geoffkait 06:34:32 06/24/05 (1)

Facts, where are facts? - KlausR. 07:28:11 06/24/05 (0)

NOT French !! - clifff 14:13:54 06/23/05 (3)

Re: You're right! - geoffkait 14:49:38 06/23/05 (2)

Don't give up your day job. - clifff 15:14:47 06/23/05 (1)

Re: Cliffff - You're too fast for me :-) nt - geoffkait 04:41:49 06/24/05 (0)

And the audio press also likes... - KlausR. 09:36:28 06/20/05 (3)

Re: Really? Two reviewers agree on something? n - geoffkait 12:05:22 06/20/05 (2)

You did not get my point, did you??? - KlausR. 09:25:53 06/21/05 (1)

Re: You had a point? - geoffkait 10:24:34 06/21/05 (0)

Thanks Dave... - Wellfed 21:13:04 06/18/05 (0)

Why do you think it is safe to use? - Al Sekela 09:41:00 06/18/05 (4)

interesting observation - unclestu52 11:32:37 06/18/05 (0)

good points... - drclark 10:06:16 06/18/05 (2)

Re: good points... - Tom Dawson 00:43:28 06/20/05 (0)

I see your point: - Al Sekela 09:03:17 06/19/05 (0)

you will be able to figure out the reason - tunenut 20:32:46 06/17/05 (0)

Re: GSIC observation and query... - apesma 14:30:24 06/17/05 (1)

I will need clarification as to what it is you're asking... - Wellfed 16:22:35 06/17/05 (0)

divine intervention? - Par Time Punk 23:44:59 06/16/05 (2)

New query... - Wellfed 00:46:28 06/17/05 (1)

Re: New query... - Par Time Punk 01:47:06 06/17/05 (0)

Re: Does Marshall Nack have a PhD in physics? - Paul_A 04:19:52 06/17/05 (1)

Re: Does that matter? - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 15:24:16 06/17/05 (0)

Why don't we just agree that we disagree? - Norm 07:26:22 06/17/05 (16)

I asked a pretty simply question Norm... - Wellfed 16:26:17 06/17/05 (0)

Re: Why don't we just agree that we disagree? - Az Barber 08:12:29 06/17/05 (1)

The "discourse" is useless, but you are right I could ignore it. nt - Norm 10:39:58 06/17/05 (0)

Here's why. - Al Sekela 10:11:02 06/17/05 (8)

I am more concerned about cell phones and drivers using them. - Norm 10:38:13 06/17/05 (6)

more camps please - Par Time Punk 13:19:59 06/17/05 (4)

3 & 4 don't exist nt - Norm 13:27:33 06/17/05 (2)

just because you cant see them? - Par Time Punk 13:34:40 06/17/05 (1)

Likewise PAR [nt] - Wellfed 16:31:07 06/17/05 (0)

The common phrase is "There's a sucker born every minute." - Al Sekela 13:34:52 06/17/05 (0)

Why do you think that? - Al Sekela 13:38:30 06/17/05 (0)

Re: Here's why. - jokekajr 10:46:10 06/17/05 (0)

Re: Why don't we just agree that we disagree? - Tuckers 11:12:01 06/17/05 (3)

I am not ignoring the empirical evidence. I am ignoring the small amount of anecdotal evidence. - Norm 12:22:49 06/17/05 (2)

Re: I am not ignoring the empirical evidence. I am ignoring the small amount of anecdotal evidence. - Tuckers 19:53:50 06/17/05 (1)

It is anecdotal. nt - Norm 20:13:50 06/17/05 (0)

EVEN BETTER than gsic...! - Gaffer74 07:38:48 06/17/05 (0)

Here's Positive's positive review of the Chip that y'all hate... to read. - clarkjohnsen 08:02:02 06/17/05 (23)

excellent review - Par Time Punk 09:10:01 06/17/05 (22)

Re: excellent review - Doc Gaw 09:27:27 06/17/05 (21)

I take it you are Bill Gaw... - Wellfed 16:36:28 06/17/05 (2)

Re: I take it you are Bill Gaw... - Doc Gaw 09:52:09 06/22/05 (1)

Thanks Bill... - Wellfed 12:21:33 06/22/05 (0)

Re: excellent review - Par Time Punk 09:56:42 06/17/05 (17)

I am sorry about your hearing. nt - Norm 10:46:39 06/17/05 (16)

There is an alternative. You may be affected by the placebo effect. - Norm 10:50:59 06/17/05 (15)

Then it's affectations anonymous, since he isn't registered. nt - clarkjohnsen 11:08:26 06/17/05 (0)

exactly - Par Time Punk 12:59:46 06/17/05 (13)

The mind can both tell us we hear something and that we hear nothing. Glad you agree nt - Norm 13:28:48 06/17/05 (12)

agreed. the effect of the chip is all in the mind. - Par Time Punk 14:06:37 06/17/05 (11)

as is all sensory perception?? What is your point? nt - Norm 16:26:41 06/17/05 (10)

His point is that the GSIC can't possibly work... - Wellfed 16:51:23 06/17/05 (9)

Re: His point is that the GSIC can't possibly work... - Ken Perkins 21:20:23 06/17/05 (8)

Nothing wrong with the saving the world from scam artists... - Wellfed 22:47:20 06/17/05 (7)

"What emotion does this sort of thing trigger within you folks anyway?" PRECISELY! - clarkjohnsen 07:58:12 06/18/05 (0)

Re: Nothing wrong with the saving the world from scam artists... - Par Time Punk 23:36:41 06/17/05 (5)

Re: "It can't work; it doesn't work; it is nonsense." - geoffkait 05:43:49 06/18/05 (4)

something for the weekend sir? - Par Time Punk 03:10:41 06/19/05 (3)

Re: Ausgesheitnet ! - geoffkait 06:00:10 06/19/05 (2)

Close, but no banana! - KlausR. 07:01:08 06/19/05 (1)

Re: Mein Air... - geoffkait 07:50:25 06/19/05 (0)

Easy to prove! - Blues_man 08:44:38 06/17/05 (29)

Re: Ha Ha Ha - geoffkait 08:55:11 06/17/05 (28)

Good to see the debunking of your most recent 'explanation' hasn't ruined your sense of humor. nt - bjh 09:20:42 06/17/05 (9)

Re: what debunking? - that so-called debunkery was pure bunk! nt - geoffkait 09:26:52 06/17/05 (8)

Is that so? - bjh 09:38:04 06/17/05 (7)

Re: Yes ... - geoffkait 10:33:47 06/17/05 (6)

How does a laser maintain a gaussian profile and coherence when reflected diffusively - jneutron 13:54:05 06/20/05 (1)

Well ... - bjh 12:22:26 06/17/05 (4)

Re: "He claimed" - geoffkait 13:15:16 06/17/05 (3)

You are a funny guy ... oh and intellectually abhorrent as well. nt. - bjh 13:23:51 06/17/05 (1)

Re: Bite me. Is that intellectual enough for you? nt - geoffkait 16:11:26 06/17/05 (0)

Re: "He claimed" - Par Time Punk 13:30:42 06/17/05 (0)

Re: Ha Ha Ha - Par Time Punk 09:34:24 06/17/05 (0)

We have an old saying put your money where your mouth is - Blues_man 10:38:25 06/17/05 (1)

Re: "I never get any takers." - geoffkait 10:44:49 06/17/05 (0)

Let's put it this way, Geoff: better have a ready airline ticket - Bruce from DC 10:46:19 06/17/05 (5)

Re: Good Joke! - geoffkait 10:54:56 06/17/05 (0)

Hey, Bruce, isn't this Geoff guy... - TeddiJackEddie 12:49:19 06/17/05 (3)

"People who prattle on endlessly about this chip" ROTFLOL! - clarkjohnsen 07:53:23 06/18/05 (0)

Now, that's a plan TJE! - Bruce from DC 14:39:54 06/17/05 (1)

Re: The Heart of the Beast - geoffkait 16:52:25 06/17/05 (0)

Hey Geoff... - Jim Austin 12:07:51 06/17/05 (8)

Re: Jim, it's a Catch-22... - geoffkait 13:02:00 06/17/05 (3)

Works both ways I guess... - Jim Austin 13:29:48 06/17/05 (2)

Re: I see your point... - geoffkait 06:10:58 06/18/05 (1)

I haven't seen this assertion either... - Wellfed 08:18:10 06/19/05 (0)

It's like the emperor's new clothes - Blues_man 13:13:00 06/17/05 (3)

Re: It's like the emperor's new clothes - Par Time Punk 13:44:04 06/17/05 (2)

I will continue to enjoy the REALITY of improved performance nonetheless... - Wellfed 17:13:16 06/17/05 (1)

land of nod - Par Time Punk 23:57:11 06/17/05 (0)

Repeat of my GSIC blurb . . . - Pjay 09:46:22 06/17/05 (0)

To repeat a suggestion I made three months ago ... - Big Dave 10:31:47 06/17/05 (0)

Re: GSIC observation and query... - jokekajr 10:39:33 06/17/05 (2)

Yes it works on DVDs as well -- for those who prefer to trust their eyes. nt - clarkjohnsen 11:32:11 06/17/05 (1)

I went to a Tweeters to see the DLP rainbow but could'nt. ;^( (nt) - soulfood 12:43:49 06/17/05 (0)

Wellfed, you devil you. Are you trying to kill off the scam police? You need to be concerned with their blood pressure. - Norm 10:42:54 06/17/05 (1)

Have you had any experience(s) with the GSIC that match... - Wellfed 21:51:51 06/17/05 (0)

anyone want to buy a slightly used pyramid hat from 1978? (nt) - TommyK 11:03:49 06/17/05 (1)

No, what I'd really like is... - Wellfed 21:24:55 06/17/05 (0)

Why are you seeking a nonexistent explanation? - soulfood 11:47:00 06/17/05 (8)

"If what you hear is a phenomenon, you should lower your expectations for meaningful answers." Huh? - clarkjohnsen 12:33:00 06/17/05 (1)

Thanks for pointing that out. - soulfood 13:23:59 06/17/05 (0)

existent explanation - Par Time Punk 13:27:06 06/17/05 (5)

Search the archives for abundant discussion on the subject... - Wellfed 21:45:37 06/17/05 (4)

Search the archives for abundant discussion on the subject - Par Time Punk 00:01:21 06/18/05 (3)

It can, and it does... - Wellfed 22:23:24 06/18/05 (2)

lord of the dance - Par Time Punk 02:36:31 06/19/05 (1)

I find it a nuisance that you don't add any value to this particular discussion... - Wellfed 18:52:56 06/19/05 (0)

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The mind can both tell us we hear something and that we hear nothing. Glad you agree nt - Norm 13:28:48 06/17/05 (12)

agreed. the effect of the chip is all in the mind. - Par Time Punk 14:06:37 06/17/05 (11)

as is all sensory perception?? What is your point? nt - Norm 16:26:41 06/17/05 (10)

His point is that the GSIC can't possibly work... - Wellfed 16:51:23 06/17/05 (9)

Re: His point is that the GSIC can't possibly work... - Ken Perkins 21:20:23 06/17/05 (8)

Nothing wrong with the saving the world from scam artists... - Wellfed 22:47:20 06/17/05 (7)

"What emotion does this sort of thing trigger within you folks anyway?" PRECISELY! - clarkjohnsen 07:58:12 06/18/05 (0)

Re: Nothing wrong with the saving the world from scam artists... - Par Time Punk 23:36:41 06/17/05 (5)

Re: "It can't work; it doesn't work; it is nonsense." - geoffkait 05:43:49 06/18/05 (4)

something for the weekend sir? - Par Time Punk 03:10:41 06/19/05 (3)

Re: Ausgesheitnet ! - geoffkait 06:00:10 06/19/05 (2)

Close, but no banana! - KlausR. 07:01:08 06/19/05 (1)

Re: Mein Air... - geoffkait 07:50:25 06/19/05 (0)

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