In Reply to: Since no one has come out to say they disbelieve the Freeze Effect-does that mean it's accepted by everyone here? posted by Posy Rorer on April 10, 2007 at 21:57:35:
"BTW, I'm also betting you're just guessing when you say the photo is not a real and repeatable effect. So what's your assertion based on?
"You can prove to me that it is a real and repeatable effect? From what? Your own personal experience? I saw David Copperfield make an elephant disappear once. I am sure he could do it repeatably (as in every night he had a show),fooling me every time, and everyone who was there for sure thought it was a real disappearance even though they new it was just a show, bias be damned it sure looked like he made it disappear!!
I suspected you meant normal freezing and not cryogenics but it is better to err on the side of caution. In that case then I would say you are simply wrong. Materials behave very differently at cryogenic temperatures than they do at normal merely "cold" temperatures, which to materials such as metals that are already frozen are not that cold at all. At cryogenic temperatures there are fundamental changes to the structure in metals that end up being permanent. Cryogenics is defined by NIST to start at -180°C.
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- Re: Since no one has come out to say they disbelieve the Freeze Effect-does that mean it's accepted by everyone here? - morricab 06:11:22 04/11/07 (10)
- That would not be logical conclusion! - Pat D 12:54:40 04/11/07 (0)
- Re: Since no one has come out to say they disbelieve the Freeze Effect-does that mean it's accepted by everyone here? - Posy Rorer 08:54:10 04/11/07 (8)
- Re: Since no one has come out to say they disbelieve the Freeze Effect-does that mean it's accepted by everyone here? - morricab 09:40:32 04/11/07 (6)
- Re: Since no one has come out to say they disbelieve the Freeze Effect-does that mean it's accepted by everyone here? - geoffkait 10:41:18 04/11/07 (5)
- "That is if one is actually serious about getting to the bottom of this thing." But we all know the "one" ... - clarkjohnsen 11:36:55 04/11/07 (4)
- Mighty presumptuous of you Clark... - morricab 16:38:33 04/11/07 (0)
- Re: You're kidding, right? - geoffkait 12:11:02 04/11/07 (2)
- The "one" in question was m-cab. nt - clarkjohnsen 12:31:20 04/11/07 (1)
- Re: This all comes as quite a shock. :-) nt - geoffkait 12:38:11 04/11/07 (0)
- So you are asking morricab to prove the null hypothesis? - Pat D 09:03:16 04/11/07 (0)