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It's an irony or a rip-off?

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cheap-Jack

In Reply to: RE: cd player caps posted by mayanitis on July 25, 2007 at 11:55:19

HI.

A 4-grander CD player used cheap caps worth only 1 buck-half a pop?

My goodness. What more profitable business can it be???

c-J

PS: I guess my DIYed SS phonostage where I used only PP film caps throughout, gonna worth tons of money.

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Musical Fidelity and low grade parts - nightdoggy 07:23:26 07/26/07 (6)
Antony Michaelson was quoted as saying he did not believe in the benefits of high end component parts.
But he charges high end prices for his Asian built gear....
- It is all money game ! - cheap-Jack 08:57:33 07/26/07 (5)
  Hi.
  
  Get a chance to open up your expensive brandname loudspeaker cabinets & check the hook-up wires & the parts used in the x-over networks.
  
  Very likely you would throw up.
  
  c-J
  - Like the Audio Physic advertisement in Stereophile - nightdoggy 13:46:26 07/26/07 (0)
    which showed one of their $megabuck speakers with its crossover at the bottom of the page. $.45 cent electrolytics and crap coils.
    We added up the approximate cost and came up with $3.65 for each crossover!
    Shame on them.
  - Thanks to every one for your imput - mayanitis 11:30:41 07/26/07 (3)
    Just for you jack,
    
    I looked inside my focal micro utopias which retail for $10k ( I paid a bit less) and found the caps appear to retail for less than $5 each at percys audio...ie 3.6uf 250v in speaker compared to a close 3.9 uf 250v for $2.50 retail
    
    I should say I still like the equipment that i purchased, but they could have been better for the price
    - The part I would change - Russ57 07:33:10 07/28/07 (0)
      The caps and the inductors are quite good enough. But I'd swap out those white "monkey coffin" resistors for some Mills. I think you find it worth the cost/trouble.
      
      Russ
    - Actually that's a good crossover - nightdoggy 13:48:39 07/26/07 (1)
      better than 90% of the high end crossovers I have seen.
      - Agreed. - cheap-Jack 07:01:29 07/27/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Actually that's a good crossover posted by nightdoggy on July 26, 2007 at 13:48:39
        
        Hi.
        
        I upgrade audio components for audiophiles as my hobby job. IMO, 85% costly brandname speaker systems built like crap inside.
        
        The image posted really shows a very quality built cross-over networks & good size quality hook-up wires given the high priscetag. Hard to find such nicely built speaker system inart nowadays.
        
        Much much better than my stock KEF 2-way bookshelf speaker systems where I had to rebuild the entire X-over network into bi-wiring & replace ALL the cheapie tiny 'lytic caps with oversized non-polar PP film caps, & hookup wires to #12 gauge.
        
        c-J
RE: It's an irony or a rip-off? - Awe-d-o-file 18:53:43 07/25/07 (2)
There are places to use hi grade caps in circuits and places where they are a waste. Your statement is unfounded.

ET
- RE: It's an irony or a rip-off? - Wally 09:33:18 07/29/07 (0)
  A company that charges top rate for a device and uses very cheap components is taking the p*ss I think. Even if the effect on sound quality is small in certain areas of the design, there is still a question of longevity and reliability. I wouldn't be happy paying that kind of money and finding cheap components inside.
- So "the cd player is AWASH with Jamicon caps" is "unfounded" !!!??????? - cheap-Jack 06:53:07 07/26/07 (0)
  Hi.
  
  To substantiate your otherwise "unfounded" argument, tell us where & what "hi grade" caps are used inside the CD player?
  
  c-J

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