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Anyone have experience with this network Player and/or a comparison in sq with others?
BTW, hello everyone, I've been reading the posts here for awhile and decided to ask this question because I'm in the market.
Thank you
J
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Been doing a lot of research and travelling/listening to different gear around the area.
Narrowed down my search to either the Lumin U2 or the HiFi Rose 130.
Another network player caught my eye but will probably find its way into my office system...the Cayin iDap-8.
J.
Well, the HiFi Rose 130 seems out. No dealers in the country and no direct sells via the Internet in the country. HiFi Rose suggested buying it from another country and having it shipped. Nah, I'll pass on that.
After further investigation the Lumin U2 as well as the Luxman are a no-go due to no Wi-Fi.
The search continues.
J.
Have you considered the Eversolo DMP-A8? It has a huge following and I finally jumped on board about a month ago. Under $2000 USD and available from Amazon and others.
Eversolo DMP-A8 in my audio rack
I briefly looked at the Eversolo but its Android based and I'd prefer something Linux based. Not being able to upgrade the OS might not be an issue, but my top pick for an Android based streamer would be the Cayin. I have experience with Cayin products being an owner of their top DAP the Cayin N8ii and their entry level DAP the Cayin N3Pro.
Also I'm looking for a network Player without the built in Dac, I have a Luxman DA-07x on order which should be here next month.
https://www.luxman.co.jp/presspro/da-07x
J.
Hello and welcome to the Computer Audio Asylum! Your profile says you are on Kyushu Island, Japan. Is the typhoon in your area? I was born in the resort town of Beppu and was raised by the snow monkeys. Just kidding about the snow monkeys!Hope you are well.
I have no experience with the Luxman NT-07 (that you asked about in another post) but it seems very expensive compared to many other streamers with more features. In my experience the DAC (or the DAC section of a streamer) contribute a LOT more to the sound quality than the network (transport) section of the streamer.
I have a few DIY Raspberry Pi network streamers that I built and connected over USB to various outboard USB DACs. High-end brands like Bryston and Boulder use the Raspberry Pi boards in some of their expensive products which confirms for me that even the cheap Raspberry Pi can be an outstanding network streamer. Again, the DAC makes a much bigger difference for sound quality.
Customized Linux is widely used in many streamers and "Android is a mobile operating system based on a modified version of the Linux kernel and other open-source software, designed primarily for touchscreen mobile devices such as smartphones and tablets."
But... some network streamer manufacturers customize Android to better suit their DAP/Streamer product. For example, Eversolo modifies Android to completely bypass Android's audio limitations.
I believe other DAP maker do similar modifications including FiiO. I own the Eversolo DMP-A8 which sounds outstanding and is very feature rich. It replaced my separate streamer, DAC, and preamp in my system.
Here's the Stereophile Review of the Eversolo DMP-A8 Streamer / DAP / DAC / Pre-Amp
P.S. The Eversolo along with many others can be used as an "all in one" Streamer / DAP / DAC / Pre-Amp but some brands offer the flexibility of using just the sections that you want. For example, I can use the DAC that is in the Eversolo AND I can also connect the Eversolo to my external DACs. The Luxman is just a network streamer or 'transport' with no DAC or DAP capability.
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Hi Abe, I'm actually an American living in Japan, and it seems that you are actually Japanese living in America. How interesting.
At any rate thank you for your response. This is actually the Luxman NT-07 thread but I appreciate reading comments to the Android network player thread here too.
I'm in the process of rebuilding my setup, having to sell and give most of it away before coming to Japan. I've decided on Luxman as supposed to other Japanese brands.
BTW, Typhoon No.10 as its called here in Japan did not cause much of an issue in my area, the greatest flooding and damage was mostly near your home town in the neighboring Oita.
Best Regards
J
Hi J,
I'm half Japanese moved to America when I was 1 year old then moved back to Iwakuni for 4th grade (on a USMC military base) then another visit to Tokyo for my employer in 1991. Glad to hear that Typhoon No.10 wasn't much of a threat in your area.
I bet Luxman and Accuphase are much better deals in Japan. They're rather pricey here!
Yes Japanese brands are somewhat more affordable here, but of course US brands become more expensive. However there aren't many US brands sold here and import taxes are very high so buying foreign products [of almost any kind] is rare, but not impossible.
J.
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When I was a 4th grader living in Japan I received $2.00/week allowance for doing chores around the house. I still remember the exchange rate being right around 360Y to the USD. I was a rich American kid buying up electronic toys and fireworks every week (which were legal year-round). Iwakuni was pretty rural with rice paddies, dirt roads in residential areas, and a train track behind our house.I often see Japanese market Accuphase with 100-VAC requirement for sale at steep discount to the U.S. but the catch is you need to use an outboard step-down transformer to accommodate our 120-VAC service. I bet there's no warranty though.
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Iwakuni was pretty rural with rice paddies, dirt roads in residential areas, and a train track behind our house.Yeah, once you are outside the city rice 'crops of anything' are pretty much growing everywhere. On the plus side, this means 'at least in my area' everything in the grocery stores are locally grown and fresh.
Rice growing
Local Market
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I remember the thick square Japanese bread from the local market when I lived in Iwakuni.
Is that a Volkswagon GTi in the photo? Didn't know they had them in Japan. I owned a 1983 and 2003 VW GTi.
The bread is still the same, thick and square...just ate some for breakfast in fact.Yes looks like a GTi, these days you can find just about every kind of car here. I saw a US made late model Camaro the other day [steering wheel on the left side]. I've seen Hummers and just about everything you can think of...
Oddly enough, although I'm in the countryside I've seen Ferrari's, and quite a lot of expensive cars like high end Mercedes, Lexus, BMW's, Porsche etc. Of course no upscale neighborhoods or gated communities so its hard to tell where they came from, but a strange sight none the less.
J.
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Wow, I'm surprised at the variety of cars you see there.
I haven't kept up lately but it seems to me that the exchange rate held at just about 100Y to the USD for quite a while but in recent years it's more like 150Y to the USD.
Do you find that living in Japan is reasonably affordable these days? I would imagine that living in a rural area would be more affordable. Have you been to Akihabara in Tokyo?
Its been awhile since I've been in Japan myself, I just retired here this year. Otherwise its been about 12 years since my last visit. Prior to that we used to come back on a regular basis and pretty much visit all the usual places, but mostly places tourist don't know about [off the beaten path] high-end Onsen's tucked away in the country side, scenic spots in different Prefectures etc.
I'm surprised at the number of young foreigners living here in the cities and of course what seems like a build up of wealth in 40+ year olds. Also at least in Fukuoka city the amount of building of both up-scale apartments and buildings in general.
Affordability, some things are very affordable some things aren't, its really hit or miss. For the most part food is affordable vs the US, cars minus import tax are more affordable, cloths etc. slightly more affordable thanks to the exchange rate. Audio gear is generally more expensive here, I purchased my office monitors from VintageKing audio online in the US and even with shipping and import taxes I still saved 40%. Mogami cables are about 1/2 the cost in the US vs Japan. 150Y/USD was about the peek but a weaker USD and gradually increasing rates here are pushing exchange rates back to normal.
Lots of brands here that you never see in the US like SoulNote [a brand created from ex-Marantz engineers]. US and other foreign brands are sparse, they encourage the sale of Japan made products and have little interest or knowledge of foreign made products.
J.
I had some Japanese 100v appliances [iron, small computer, phone] which seemed to work without issue in the US, and all of my 120v gear that I could bring runs normally here in Japan. With that said, I still would probably not risk buying an expensive 100v amp for use in the US. Accuphase clearly states in all the stores here that their products are not for use outside of Japan and pretty much makes you promise not to ship it out of the country.
J.
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