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Has anyone heard the Axiom M80's? If their published specs are correct, 91db chamber / 95 db typical listening room and a 4 ohm load, these might be a candidate for 300B SET for those not into Fostex and horns. At around $1,200 they are an attractive option if they are any good, I am just not sure if their specs are in order (or what the actual impedance curve looks like). Just curious, I searched the archives and didn't find much.
Paul
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I am not an expert, but it looks darn flat to me.
I have owned a pair of the now discontinued M40Ti, and they sound wonderful with SET amps. These Axiom speakers present a benign impedance modulus to triode amps, the cone rolls off mechanically, and the tweeter is set with a cap. With digital source and EQ, they sound very nice. Srajan is quoted as saying the tweeter is better than it has any right to be, at the price point. I use them as my speakers when I am between speakers, if you know what I mean. Owned them five years now, and they are very listenable. I could say that I would bet a 300B and the M80 would be an interesting pairing. I could easily get with that. Just my o2 ya know. Beyond that, I love wideband drivers in horns and on open baffles, but Axioms do just fine in the monkey coffin department...
Good response.
You may have looked at them already but I use the FR8 in a plain old bass reflex box. That are rated at 94db. They now have some nice cabinet designs on their website. It took a while for mine to burn in but I am enjoying them very much. I can drive them louder than I can stand with a 41hz Amp6. The Audio Nirvana drivers look interesting too though I have not tried them yet.
I am just not that talented when it comes to building and woodworking. I really want to be able to hear the product first.
Can't you get someone to help you?
They are simple designs.
You are right to listen to before
to buy.
Good luck.
I could always get a profesional cabinet maker to do that part. These are options and I suppose Pi would also be an option if I am willing to do that. Soldering I am good for.
heya paully-
you still having problems with your horns? man.. we gotta get you beyond those issues, cause it seems such a shame that you have an anti horn bias!
talk to kloss-- mebbe he can help you with full rangers!
d.
is based on limited experience! I am trying to set up an appointment to go listen to some Klipsch. I am pretty sure at this point that Fostex is not my cup of tea though. The Axioms looked like a a sort of line array at a very reasonable cost. I emailed the company and asked for copies of the impedance curves for the M line. Probably won't get them, but I also asked for minimum impedance numbers, hopefully I will get that.
If Kloss has suggestions (hopefully that I can listen to) I am all ears!
Paul
Should have a few out in a month or so.Beta testing is going well. We have a OB design and bass reflex BLH, port can be pluged for more power handling or left open for bass to 50hz. I do have a website under construction http://www.kcsloudspeakers.com/
Feel free to email me directly with your developments.
It is not my intention to sound like I am bashing Klipsch.....But IMHO a first time possible horn buyer audtioning Klipsch is very likely to only reinforce his opinion that horns are brash, in your face, and not pleasing.
Sadly there are few places where you can audition other horn loaded speakers.
Russ
Well it seems the bandwagon regarding horns and brightness just keeps rolling along. Vintage Klipsch of course are to be used with vintage tubes. Were I to hook up my Forte pair to a chinese tubed amp or I hate to even say it ... a soild state amp, yup those horns will let you know what in your face means. But with a few watts of NOS Dutch tubes and your search for musical nirvana will reach it's happy conclusion. Enjoy
there are people around with them. Like you said, living in south Georgia I am unlikely to encounter any Edgar Horns... So far, if memeory serves, I have heard:
Cain and Cain
Omega
Zu Druids
Multiple Home Brew Fostex
A $30K (can't remember the name) that looked like a giant Klipsch
One or two other, really can't remember the name on these either.
No straight horn set-up like Edgar or such.
I have J Kloss Fostex BLH and love them, if Fostex is not for you do not ignore Klipsch. I bought a used pair of Heresys for a second system for mono lp's and cd's and I am not dissapointed in the least. I do recommend you use tubes on them. Wait I recommend you use tubes on everything. Always trust your own ears listen to Klipsch but keep in mind Kloss builds many kinds of speakers he may have one for you.
I am taking my Bottlehead amplifier with me for my listening session. The person with the speakers has a large number of vintage Klipsh models. Probably more than a dealer.
I see Kloss posting here but I don't know anything about him. Does he have a website?
No I don't think he has a web site. Link to pics of some designs he has done in the past. In link highlighted name for email contact, or send me email and I'll give you his phone #
Glenn
I took a look, neat site. The Ariels were especially interesting. If I decide to get in touch with Kloss, I will just email him. Thanks!
I'd head on over to Tom Danley's place and offer slave labor in return for an education. His tapped horn and rotary sub-woofer are a couple of fresh ideas in a stale field. He credentials speak for themsleves. To bad his partner has no interest in the home audio market as I get the feeling Tom would be willing to give it a go.
Look up Danley sound labs, Gainseville, GA. Yorkville makes a tapped horn speaker through an agreement with Tom's company BTW.
And yes, I am with you....all those back loaded horns and supposedly full range drivers don't cut the mustard for me. But trying open baffle with a bass reflex on the bottom and some sorta tweeter on the top ain't half bad and very easy to make.
Now none of these options are worth a damn when it comes to WAF/SAF.
Russ
does indeed look easy. If I were going to build one that would be it. Like you said though, this goes in the living room. The wife might let me put one in for a while, for building fun, but it won't be the permanent speaker. I am a good long way from Gainseville though I am reading their web site. Maybe a pair of Triangle Antals and a Bottlehead Paramount 300B and call it good for a while?
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