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In Reply to: RE: Question on speakers posted by Paully on May 26, 2007 at 13:32:56
well.. perennial faves- audio notes.. sound great, but not for everybody either. there's spendors- which aren't the definition of high efficiency-- but within relatively confined parameters of volume, they've got decent impedance curves. you could always find some used klipsch cornwalls, you could go with some of the old jensens.. i've tried AR's with 14 watts and didn't suffer too badly-- not the most detailed buggers, but pleasant. proac's don't seem to be too destructive at low volume..
good lord though-- these're all over the map tonally. you'd probably need to be more specific about your tonal needs to give you a good answer..
the DIY route is really gratifying, but a long row to hoe, and if you don't have shop/skills.. it may be ugly in more ways than one!
in short.. need mo' information!
d
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I like classical and alternative rock so it needs to be as all around as possible.
nah-- more what i meant was -- are dynamics more important than, say, detail? do you like a ruler flat response out to 30k? are you a bass freak? do you want 'modern' vs. 'vintage' sound? warm or analytical? what compromises are you willing to make? what're your space limitations? can you make them? can you solder or do woodworking?
you'd be surprised how fast you could shape up a list based on that stuff!
good luck!
d
My ability to describe things like that is limited. I like the right balance. I enjoy detail but if I wanted complete and total detail I would go solid state. So I do like the warm and fuzzy, euphonic sound of tubes coming through my speakers. I have a good amount of space but a Klipsh Lascala would be too wide. It is a large living room. I can solder but I can't do woodworking, or at least all I would attempt is gluing a prefab kit. Would prefer to buy them complete though. Does this help?
absolutely!
somebody else recommended the bastanis dragonfly-- i haven't heard-- but it's a single driver efficient enough and in your range. there's the hammer dynamics speaks.. although i dunno if they do a full box kit. you could check out 'the horn shoppe'. but i can't recommend any of them by ear. i think you'd be hard pressed in your price range for any audio notes or spendors at this point (especially given their crazy price increases as late!).. you could look at some of the old JBLs and altecs used-- that'd probably be your best route for full sized sound, efficiency, and some adjustability. none of 'em is perfect-- and i don't know if they fit your size specs either (might think about cornwalls-- narrower than la scalas, anyhow..).. but it depends on your need for bass. some folks love 8"ers-- but they'll limit your volume-- which with a 2a3 will probably be limited anyhow, especially if it's your only amp.
if i were you-- i'd seriously check the vintage market-- that's a pretty good amount of working room economically-- but NEW.. not so much. it REALLY seems that the high eff world is tough in that range. mebbe omegas.. but i think they're fostex too. you could also try to score yourself some jbl le8's and buy some prefab boxes from madisound or parts express too.. plop a supertweeter on 'em.
phew! well.. that's a few ideas.. hope any of 'em is helpful!
yrs
d.
Looking at the Dragonfly, I am not sure if I can build it and it looks like it needs real research to cost it out. The Altec's seem to have a history and again, it will take some research to see what models might actually be in my price range. JBL looks promising. You have a large number of suggestions, which I appreciate, and am looking into. I don't want anyone to think I am being flippant when they take the time to respond which is why I like to say thanks upfront and then do the back-end research. I thought I was being polite, I am very sorry I offended you.
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Thanks!
this thread's more of a resource than most of us started with. seriously-- try google on any of the suggestions- and at this point- theres a lot of 'em. we can only throw you ideas-- the rest is dependant on your system and ears- period. if you say stuff like 'places to start are always appreciated' at the end of a 30 some message thread- people're gonna think you're trolling or just ignoring their recommendations!
good luck-
d.
I have a list of names, google is exactly where I am heading, and actually have already started researching. I have suggestions for corner horns, line arrays, etc... I have already located one of the suggestions in Georgia and am going to go listen to it. The thread sparked a few people to contact me and I have already gone and listened to a pair of Brines yesterday and am setting up two more listening sessions based on this thread.
I didn't mean that the efforts were just a good start but that I am at the beginning of a long process and that I have a good deal of work ahead of me. The names are a fantastic resource, but I haven't heard more than one of them yet so I wanted to say thanks for the lists and let people know I appreciate it and am going forward. Other than that I don't have anything intelligent to say yet so I just said thanks for the help.
sorry paul-
my apologies.. sometimes this inflectionless world of email can be brutal on the context level of communication!
good luck on the search, and hopefully the listening is fruitful-- don't forget your amp! definitely report back and let us know what y' find-
yrs--
d
The internet is full of people who have forgotten their manners, just didn't want you thinking I was one of them after you went to the trouble to make that great list for me. I do appreciate it. I am a bit of a Bottlehead, so I am toying with the idea building a Paramount to start which has enough power to run my current speakers and then once I have managed to listen to enough speakers and do the research I will buy a pair. I haven't decided which I want to do first (I already have a SET amp that I can use so I could go either way). Bottlehead is the easy part for me ultimately, the speakers are the tougher nut but I am on my way. Thanks!
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