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In Reply to: RE: Denon 7000 posted by pbarach on May 16, 2012 at 13:30:24
It not a rumor it been verified by Denon to me they are discontinued and they wont have any more stock so basically your on your own the new ones look like crap and are open not closed
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that had nothing to do with servicing the d7k everyone knew the new ones would be coming. The issue is there is no repair parts for the old line and no support. I was lucky and got paid for anyone out of warranty good luck.
On several sites, people insisted that the discontinuation story wasn't confirmed. On innerfidelity.com, Tyll Hertsens published a detailed review (with measurements) of the DH7000 and learned from a reader a few days later that they were being discontinued. If anyone would know the pulse of the headphone industry, I suspect it would be Hertsens--and he didn't know (because Denon didn't tell him).
Yes, I understand, Frank, that the original issue raised on this thread was the problem with replacement parts.
Call Denon on NJ ask for sales and marketing they will tell you they are all discontinued and the new ones are and have been announced. Shoot Tyll an email he will tell you the same thing I am saying here ad I did get a check for the price I paid as they could not fix them nor could they replace them.
Frank, you seem to have misread my last message. Here's the sequence of events--
1. I posted in this thread on May 16 that the D7000's were rumored to be discontinued. I said "rumored" because there was nothing official yet.
2. You responded on May 16 that it was not a rumor, that Denon had confirmed the discontinuation of this model.
3. On May 29 I posted a link to a headfi post with pictures of the replacement model.
4. You responded on May 31, "that had nothing to do with servicing the d7k everyone knew the new ones would be coming."
5. Then next day, I posted a message contradicting your statement that "everyone knew the new ones were coming, noting among other things that Tyll had posted his review of the D7000 only to learn from a commenter that the phones were discontinued. He responded that he wished the Denon rep had told him that.
6. Your post from earlier today (6/3) seems to read as if you think I am disagreeing with the idea that the 7000s were discontinued: "Call Denon on NJ ask for sales and marketing they will tell you they are all discontinued... Shoot Tyll an email he will tell you the same thing I am saying here." Well, I don't need to email Tyll because, AS I ALREADY POSTED ON JUNE 1, Tyll published his review and THEN learned the 7000s were discontinued.
So have we got this sequence straight? It was a rumor at first, Tyll published a review, Tyll learned they had been discontinued, Denon then announced the discontinuation and displayed the replacement model. So now, now, now, everybody knows and it's official. Are we done here?
Wow, I'm sorry to hear that. These are GREAT headphones (the 7000's) requiring only a little felt lining inside the wood cup to soak up a bit of bass reverb inside the cup. I also rewired mine for balanced operation using Stefan AudioArt cable. I've had a LOT of headphones including AKG, Beyer Sony, Grado, Senn, etc. Haven't ever owned a pair of Stax, but did have a couple pairs of Koss stats way back.
I'll tell you, the only headphones I ever owned (and still do) that can hold their own against the AH-D7000's are my vintage Yamaha orthodynamics. IMO, they each do one thing just a leeetle bit better than the other ;~) The Denons have a (very small) edge in bass reproduction, while the Yammies have ( atiny bit) better mids. But at these levels, the differences are insignficant as far as I'm concerned.
Balanced is a great way to drive headphones, but IMO, this is true ONLY if you have a headphone amplifier which includes a feature similar to the 'Crossfeed' function in my Headroom Home Balanced Headphone Amp. This circuit eliminates the 'ping-pong' effect, which as someone noted, can be more intense when operating headphones in balanced mode.
My other headphone amp is a (single ended) tube unit, the well-known and fabulous sounding Melos SHA-1. So of course, I get a little nuts, because they each have their strengths. I'm keeping my eye out for a unit (new or vintage) that combines the sound of tubes with the realism of 'Crossfeed'. I might never listen to my MartinLogans again (yeah, right!)
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