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Music Lane It's all about the music, dude! Sit down, relax and listen to some tunes. |
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Music Lane It's all about the music, dude! Sit down, relax and listen to some tunes. |
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In Reply to: Re: other Baroque composers... posted by risabet on May 14, 2007 at 21:49:13:
8 years YOUNGER than Beethoven. Stylistically, not as adventurous as Beethoven or even Weber, but no where near Baroque based on my listening experience. "Rococo", from what I can gather, is SOMETIMES applied to Bach's SONS (strangely...see below), not J.S. Bach himself. I believe JSB's focus on rigid form and counterpoint, along with no particular emphasis being placed upon the pursuit of "extremely refined decoration forms" at the expense of his musical arguments points to his being Baroque: High Baroque, in fact. As a matter of timing it appears that JSB's death in 1750 is often used to mark the END of the Baroque Period. Rococo existed in parallel with Baroque, but only for the latter portion of the Baroque Period (1700-1750). "High Baroque" is applied to JS Bach's later works.Some snippets off the web:
"The end of Baroque coincides with the Rococo period which is a reaction to the formalism, rigidity, and seriousness of Baroque. The pre-classical Rococo style flourished around 1720. Music with refined ornamentation can be seen as counterpart to the movement in architecture. It represents the breakdown of the severe grandeur of high Baroque music with graceful music and detailed elaboration."
"By the death of JS Bach in 1750, a major successor to Baroque style was not available. The period between then (or even 1730) and the start of the (high) Classical era in 1780, is called the early Classical period. Even before the death of JS Bach, there was a movement towards replacing majestic splendor by graceful delicacy. If Baroque music is notable for its textural intricacy, the Classical music is characterized by a near-obsession with its structural clarity. The search for intellectual freedom was to be the main principle of this new age of enlightenment. A more spontaneous musical expression was preferred. The better known composers of the pre-classical era were Gluck, Boccherini and CPE, WF and JC Bach brothers."
In the end, it is interesting to note that these "Periods" are often defined by what they "are NOT" rather than "what they ARE". In other words, when the new stuff comes along to replace the old stuff -- because folks always need NEW STUFF!:-) -- the "death of the Old" is declared.
To finish, HUMMEL is a GREAT composer (as are Weber and Moscheles). CHECK OUT THEIR PIANO CONCERTOS on Hyperion. It is a revelation to hear composers other than Beethoven speaking very much in his language: right on the cusp between Classical and Romantic, but long past the dust of Baroque!:-)
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Follow Ups
- A little research on this. Hummel was Late Classical/Early Romantic... - SE 04:10:01 05/15/07 (2)
- Yes he was, a slight brain freeze - risabet 10:17:02 05/15/07 (1)
- Ditto. Your reference to CPE was clear... - SE 10:31:48 05/15/07 (0)
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