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not wishing to appear rude, but I probably will be taken that way...

Posted by dave c (A) on September 23, 2008 at 14:24:33

In Reply to: Thanks for your comments; posted by Sordidman on September 23, 2008 at 13:51:28:

"JD was a "different" band/art/embodiment of a philosophy. They were special, they were outside. I think that they were "above," "

I think you put great faith in a few performances and a handful of thin pieces of plastic.
They were a bunch of kids. They were a band and were not about to perform an act of transformation upon the world.

"Ian, the band, and the philosophy, and the factors surrounding everything about them was NOT COVERED."

I really don't know how you can say that.
Anton Corbijn knew the band, worked with them.
Peter Hook commented on the ending at a preview screening: "when it really hurt and everybody started clapping. It would've been nice to have a dignified silence".

When I saw the film at its Australian premiere at the 2007 Brisbane International Film Festival there was that silence. Personally I thought the scene was devastating. And I admire the comments of the rest of the band (in real life) whose reactions (in the film) do not show them in the very best light.

"Joy Division and Ian were so much more significant, influential, original, and complex than the Doors."

Whilst it could be said that JD joined the Velvets in that legend of whom it could be said that everyone who bought their first record formed a band (apart from me it seems!), I think you are talking about something else.

"they should've taken measures to explore a few more pathways that addressed the uniqueness, wonder, originality, and sheer complexity that made up the events, relationships, and characters involved during that time."

It sounds to me as if the band/scene/moment meant something very special to you, although you have not responded to my question of whether you might have been there at the time, but I have to say that if you are looking for salvation or transcendence via a rock group, you will always be sorely disappointed.

"the overwhelming blandness of a hurt housewife"

If you place Curtis on a pedestal and/or are touched by his work, that is obviously up to you, but to write off the fact that he chose to kill himself in a way guaranteeing that he was found by his wife and child is to deny his humanity, his frailty... AND his cowardice.

Edits: 09/23/08

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