In Reply to: Strongly Disagree with This posted by Triode_Kingdom on September 10, 2021 at 14:51:29:
My 211 SETs can output 30W in Class A2, and distortion is very low all the way out to that maximum capability.
Class A2 (and now class A3) do help get more power at low distortion out of any tube amp. We use class A2 in our amps quite a lot.
I'd be interested in seeing what the distortion signature of your amp is really like. I'm not disputing your claim; I've just not seen an SET that does not make more higher ordered harmonics when you get past about 20-25% of full power- somewhere in there anyway; it varies from amp to amp.
Even though you might not consciously hear them because they are masked by the lower ordered harmonics, the ear does respond to the higher orders because the ear/brain system uses them to sense sound pressure (fundamental tones without overtones being pretty rare in nature...). Since this distortion is initially turning up on transients as you run the volume up (since that is where the power is) it can give the amp a very lively 'dynamic' presentation.
We've all read about this frequently in comments about SETs, particularly in reviews where the reviewer simply didn't have speakers of sufficient efficiency.
Another way of putting this is that your amplifier in particular does not sound as 'dynamic' as other SETs (which IMO is a good thing, since real dynamics come from the recordings, not the electronics). Do I have this right?
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- RE: we agree on the bit about the OPT at least. - Ralph 15:02:38 09/10/21 (24)
- RE: we agree on the bit about the OPT at least. - morricab 07:28:26 10/12/21 (3)
- RE: we agree on the bit about the OPT at least. - Ralph 09:17:56 10/12/21 (2)
- RE: we agree on the bit about the OPT at least. - morricab 11:38:29 10/12/21 (1)
- Could you provide some context? - Ralph 12:12:08 10/12/21 (0)
- RE: we agree on the bit about the OPT at least. - morricab 07:21:40 10/12/21 (19)
- RE: we agree on the bit about the OPT at least. - Ralph 10:15:51 10/12/21 (18)
- RE: we agree on the bit about the OPT at least. - morricab 11:27:21 10/12/21 (17)
- Yeah, I get that- seen it in spades. - Ralph 12:04:36 10/12/21 (16)
- RE: Yeah, I get that- seen it in spades. - morricab 05:17:04 10/18/21 (15)
- RE: Yeah, I get that- seen it in spades. - rivervalley817 11:32:23 10/18/21 (0)
- RE: Yeah, I get that- seen it in spades. - tube wrangler 11:13:06 10/18/21 (0)
- RE: Yeah, I get that- seen it in spades. - Ralph 09:54:58 10/18/21 (12)
- RE: Yeah, I get that- seen it in spades. - morricab 05:43:08 10/20/21 (10)
- RE: Yeah, I get that- seen it in spades. - tube wrangler 18:17:44 10/20/21 (5)
- Class D gain - Ralph 11:06:50 10/22/21 (4)
- RE: Class D gain - tube wrangler 12:49:39 10/23/21 (3)
- There are zero feedback class D amps- some are getting very good comments too. nt - Ralph 09:36:31 10/25/21 (0)
- RE: Class D gain - morricab 02:59:11 10/25/21 (1)
- RE: Class D gain - tube wrangler 12:57:48 10/25/21 (0)
- RE: Yeah, I get that- seen it in spades. - rivervalley817 14:22:27 10/20/21 (0)
- BTW, thanks for your posts! nt - Ralph 09:07:37 10/20/21 (1)
- Same to you...good discussion! nt - morricab 14:03:43 10/20/21 (0)
- Yes!! - Ralph 09:05:40 10/20/21 (0)
- RE: Yeah, I get that- seen it in spades. - tube wrangler 11:27:06 10/18/21 (0)