In Reply to: What Heyser did posted by tomservo on February 5, 2023 at 09:09:46:
In the first place speakers and every thing else sound different in different rooms so it's a logical fallacy to assume frequency response measurements of speakers mean very much, since those measurements are never consistent for different rooms. As I mentioned yesterday in another post on this thread some of the most important characteristics of sound cannot (rpt cannot) be measured. Examples: Air, transparency, richness, naturalness, soundstage dimensionality, coherence, presence, things of that nature.
So, this is the *big conundrum* for audiophiles, one that Dick Heyser was unaware. If we can't measure all the characteristics of sound where does that leave us? It leaves us having to get skilled at listening. This is the ONLY WAY FORWARD. In order to find the golden path to audio nirvana you have to be able to analyze what you hear and figure out what's wrong in the system and how to deal with it. Most audiophiles I reckon are at least two paradigm shifts behind the power curve.
Measurements can be useful when mapping out the room to determine ideal locations of speakers and locations for room acoustics treatments. But other than that measurements or specs serve little purpose or guidance for audiophiles how to proceed. There are a great many hurdles in thinking that must be overcome. As Bob Dylan says at the end of his records, good luck to everyone.
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Follow Ups
- Why does everybody hyper focus on frequency response? - geoffkait 05:37:19 02/09/23 (8)
- RE: Why does everybody hyper focus on frequency response? - tomservo 16:20:40 02/09/23 (5)
- RE: Why does everybody hyper focus on frequency response? - geoffkait 03:26:25 02/10/23 (4)
- RE: Why does everybody hyper focus on frequency response? - tomservo 07:08:28 02/10/23 (3)
- RE: Why does everybody hyper focus on frequency response? - geoffkait 05:09:35 02/11/23 (2)
- RE: Why does everybody hyper focus on frequency response? - tomservo 08:40:03 02/11/23 (1)
- RE: Why does everybody hyper focus on frequency response? - geoffkait 14:22:51 02/11/23 (0)
- Or as Heyser made mention ... we know not WHAT or HOW to measure these aural experiences...yet.~nT - Cleantimestream 13:35:48 02/09/23 (1)
- Eggs akley! And we still don't. No use crying over spilled milk. - geoffkait 15:14:10 02/09/23 (0)