In Reply to: Please - and keep running after you've hit the door... posted by Presto on April 10, 2007 at 17:59:42:
>>Backward attitude? I have a very progressive and open minded attitude. <<
I guess you could say that's another example of your backward attitude. That's where you say the opposite of what is true. I think we can see an example of your "open minded attitude" right in your character attack title: "Please - and keep running after you've hit the door." Strange, because I wasn't even responding to you in the first place.
>>I study acoustics, speaker design, digital signal processing and psychology in my free time. I guess you could call me a learning junkie.<<
No, I think its' more appropriate to call you a skeptical junkie. You're addicted to 'debunking', and have little to no real interest in the progress of sound reproduction.
You're one of the most closed-minded individuals I have come across on these forums. And when i say "these forums", I mean the world. You're all smoke, ego and no substance. Plus, you're really rude, and post endless stupid character attacks that reveals your lack of maturity and intelligence. That's also a typical MO of the many I see on these forums that share your backward attitudes. In a thread calling for the cessation of personal attacks, this was your response:"Those wearing "Bulls-Eye" Shirts often make similar complaints... "
Talk about killing the messenger. In a post you made about an audio enhancement idea you never tried, "I definately like that tweak where you align your screw heads...", you wrote this dumb mockery of it:
"God forbid.
Wouldn't want to be appraising audio equipment with a SCREW LOOSE..."
Oh, how witty and clever of you, "Presto". And how open-minded an attitude it represents.
(That's sarcasm, in case I have to spell it out for you). See, if you were a "learning junkie" (how cute), then you would have attempted to actually -try- the idea, to learn what it may or may not be about. But you didn't because you're not.Here's what you said about the same idea in another post:
"It's information that can be neatly disregarded, especially since no technical or scientific reasoning is offered."
Then after going into some nutty explanation of how you risk harming life and limb by aligning your screws, but before actually trying it, you made this brilliant conclusion:
"I will not be using this free tweak. I think it does nothing to improve sonics and only risks damaging things."
CONCLUSIONS ABOUT PRESTO'S ATTITUDE:
===========================So. What have we got in this tiny example of how your ego supercedes proper scientific protocol? Well, you've told us that "if you can not find any technical or scientific reasoning available", then we are to "neatly disregard the information". But you never tried finding any reasoning for the idea, did you? Not like it's all that hard to find, it's on PWB's site.
Of course, with your type, it's not hard to predict that it wouldn't matter what the reasoning is, you'd find some argument to make against it. What matters more with those of your mindset, is whether you -believe- the idea can work. If you don't believe the idea, you simply won't accept ANY explanation of the idea, and will spend the rest of your days if necessary, looking for more excuses to argue against it.Next. You conclude the idea does "nothing to improve sonics". Do you conclude the idea does nothing to improve sonics because you tested it? Because you blind tested it? Because you double blind tested it? No. Simply because the reasoning behind it didn't jump out from the idea itself, and latch itself on to your face. So in other words, you're telling us that you're a magician who can magically "know" whether an audio idea improves sonics or not, by the powers of his mind alone, and doesn't have to try it. Must be why they call you "Presto". Well no, "Presto", you're not open-minded. You're a canonist upholding the religion of bad science, you may be a lot of things, but you're not by any stretch a progressive, open-minded individual. Sorry.
>>My mind is also open to the very real possibility that there are people out there who will claim that just about anything can affect their sound. The trick is to ensure that what you are claiming indeed does not do a DAMN thing. <<
Isn't that -your- job, and not the task of the claimant? It's certainly what you scramble to do here all the time, every time someone posts of an idea that you don't approve of. It's not about "claiming"; claims don't count for much. It's about "learning". Since you say you're a "learning junkie" (even though you're not), then LEARN. The only real way you can learn in audio, is to experiment.
>>This way you have ENSURED that the ONLY mechanism at work is the HUMAN IMAGINATION.<<
Well, your IMAGINATION sure seems to be the only mechanism at work in these messages of yours. The IMAGINATION is by far not the only mechanism at work during listening. Maybe if you did less "debunking" and more listening, you might understand that, and perhaps learn something new about audio.
>> (And this of course, still remains absolutely free of charge - except for those entrepenurial greats among us who have figured out how to bottle and sell someone their own imagination back to them!) <<
I don't know anyone who does that, and I don't imagine they'd get far in this business selling anyone "imagination". See above re: my comments about your over active imagination. Frankly speaking, if someone managed somehow to suck all the BS out of your posts, about the only thing remaining would be your name. Or on second thought, not even that.
>>Audiophiles always hear differences. That's what audiophiles do.<<
How would you know? You're not an audiophile. I know plenty of audiophiles who say they don't hear a difference.
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Follow Ups
- Presto - why do you always respond with personal attacks? Please learn to behave or leave. - Posy Rorer 23:15:54 04/10/07 (1)
- You haven't seen a personal attack yet. nt - Presto 18:32:50 04/11/07 (0)