In Reply to: Actually, it's quite a humble position. posted by Pat D on May 31, 2006 at 06:24:09:
And while the DBT is used in one subfield of psychology with it own journal and by the drug industry, it hardly defines the scientific method.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - May I borrow famous quotes to describe DBTs & the likes. - cheap-Jack 13:21:59 05/29/06 (85)
- Isn't my point crystal clear ? - cheap-Jack 13:31:58 05/30/06 (16)
- No, it's not "crystal clear" - real_jj 14:41:05 05/30/06 (15)
- Yes, cheap-Jack it's "crystal clear" - thetubeguy1954 06:57:10 05/31/06 (14)
- Tubeguy lies again... - real_jj 09:55:30 05/31/06 (13)
- No, It's Real JJ who lies... - thetubeguy1954 11:58:48 05/31/06 (10)
- again, more lies, or is it utter incomprehension? - real_jj 12:03:18 05/31/06 (9)
- Real JJ again, more lies, or is it utter incomprehension? - thetubeguy1954 12:19:29 05/31/06 (8)
- You don't even quote yourself correctly! - Pat D 13:05:46 05/31/06 (4)
- Re: You don't even quote yourself correctly! - thetubeguy1954 05:44:35 06/01/06 (3)
- I understand quotations not long enough to indicate the meaning. - Pat D 07:31:23 06/01/06 (2)
- No, You're Just An Objectivist That Doesn't Want To Understand - thetubeguy1954 09:38:05 06/01/06 (1)
- Strange that you can't explain it if it's so "crystal clear" in its application to audio! - Pat D 13:05:53 06/01/06 (0)
- The decision is not binary... - real_jj 12:44:10 05/31/06 (2)
- U R Just WRONG - thetubeguy1954 06:53:53 06/01/06 (1)
- Then you'd better file that professional complaint - real_jj 09:51:10 06/01/06 (0)
- Can't anyone here spell "disingenuous"? - Dave Pogue 11:32:17 05/31/06 (1)
- I admit, my speling is atroshus. :) - real_jj 11:59:29 05/31/06 (0)
- Here's one more... - mkuller 10:14:10 05/30/06 (67)
- Then you DO believe in science!?!? - real_jj 10:28:31 05/30/06 (66)
- Science vs. Static Doctrine - Todd Krieger 12:39:26 05/30/06 (22)
- Are we really discussing dogma? - Lynn 20:19:14 05/30/06 (2)
- Re: Are we really discussing dogma? - Todd Krieger 21:51:50 05/30/06 (1)
- There is no "clash" in the art... - real_jj 10:01:33 05/31/06 (0)
- As usual, you choose to personalize the issue - real_jj 13:25:02 05/30/06 (18)
- "I'm not stating MY position, I'm stating the strongly held position of the scientific community." Wow, not hubris here. - Norm 06:16:06 05/31/06 (15)
- In stating the earth revolves about the the sun, I am stating the strongly held position of the scientific community! - Pat D 13:52:32 06/01/06 (0)
- If you doubt my statement, do the homework... - real_jj 09:57:07 05/31/06 (2)
- No, it is only your opinion - Norm 12:17:37 05/31/06 (1)
- No, it's not my "opinion" - real_jj 16:20:44 06/01/06 (0)
- Actually, it's quite a humble position. - Pat D 06:24:09 05/31/06 (10)
- Indeed..... - Todd Krieger 09:55:07 05/31/06 (5)
- Oh, and your link is misleadingly titled... - real_jj 10:03:35 05/31/06 (3)
- Why Of Course.... - Todd Krieger 10:11:51 05/31/06 (2)
- Right... - real_jj 10:29:23 05/31/06 (1)
- One Of Real JJ's Undiscovered Talents??? - thetubeguy1954 12:06:50 05/31/06 (0)
- If you think this is not the concensus, show your work - real_jj 09:59:32 05/31/06 (0)
- I do know that authority has no role in the scientific method, one must demonstrate ones understanding of the research. - Norm 08:40:07 05/31/06 (3)
- Is there some reason you bothered to say that? - real_jj 09:58:23 05/31/06 (2)
- Only that you claim authority. nt - Norm 12:11:07 05/31/06 (1)
- Bad form, Norm... - real_jj 14:13:14 05/31/06 (0)
- As I Was Saying..... - Todd Krieger 15:02:44 05/30/06 (1)
- As usual, you can not accept the facts, and would rather falsely personalize the issue - real_jj 17:40:27 05/30/06 (0)
- Of course I believe in science... - mkuller 11:28:11 05/30/06 (42)
- Pseudoscience - hexenboden 12:51:44 05/31/06 (1)
- No, it's not "science", just observation...(nt) - mkuller 13:22:40 05/31/06 (0)
- "Absence of proof is not proof of absence," but then it's not proof of presence, either. - Pat D 17:39:44 05/30/06 (1)
- So exactly what is "our position" on amplifiers? (nt) - mkuller 11:09:53 05/31/06 (0)
- Re: Nice try... - $orabji! 16:02:26 05/30/06 (0)
- Re: Nice try... - $orabji! 16:01:37 05/30/06 (0)
- Your claim to "underdetection"??? - real_jj 12:19:40 05/30/06 (34)
- Re: Your claim to "underdetection"??? - thetubeguy1954 07:09:38 05/31/06 (1)
- Perish the thought. nt - clarkjohnsen 11:23:10 05/31/06 (0)
- Re: Your claim to "underdetection"??? - Todd Krieger 12:54:52 05/30/06 (16)
- "underdetection"??? - mkuller 13:02:29 05/30/06 (15)
- Um, actually, I don't see anything like universal support for the 'amps are same' idea. - real_jj 13:24:12 05/30/06 (14)
- Hardly universal support for audio equipment DBTs either....(nt) - mkuller 13:48:00 05/30/06 (13)
- Really? Evidence? - real_jj 13:56:07 05/30/06 (12)
- Evidence? - mkuller 14:12:44 05/30/06 (11)
- Sorry, threads here are not evidence... - real_jj 14:39:20 05/30/06 (10)
- Threads here ARE evidence of ... - mkuller 10:25:40 05/31/06 (9)
- Agreed, "what audiophiles think"... - real_jj 10:30:25 05/31/06 (8)
- So why are DBTs germane to audiophiles? - mkuller 11:07:45 05/31/06 (7)
- This is PROP-HEAD - real_jj 12:06:38 05/31/06 (6)
- And that has nothing to do with *research protocol DBTs*...(nt) - mkuller 12:46:31 05/31/06 (5)
- Only in your imagination, sir - real_jj 13:17:46 05/31/06 (4)
- Then call for them on your research protocol newsgroup...(nt) - mkuller 13:23:58 05/31/06 (3)
- Get out of my ghetto, Mkuller. - real_jj 14:09:41 05/31/06 (2)
- Go back to *rec.audio* where you belong...(nt) - mkuller 14:55:29 05/31/06 (1)
- So, you speak for the Bored? - real_jj 09:52:00 06/01/06 (0)
- When you say "DBT", specifically what are you referring to? - mkuller 12:31:21 05/30/06 (14)
- DBT by itself means "Double-blind test" - real_jj 12:34:34 05/30/06 (13)
- Unfortunately, you don't say THAT very often...(nt) - mkuller 13:04:26 05/30/06 (7)
- Actually, I do say that more often than you think... - real_jj 13:26:13 05/30/06 (6)
- You certainly have said it quite often! - Pat D 17:44:15 05/30/06 (5)
- Down boy....(nt) - mkuller 10:26:41 05/31/06 (4)
- And you failed to do the requisite research. - Pat D 19:10:14 05/31/06 (1)
- He doesn't want to learn. He wants to preach, Hallelujah Brother! - real_jj 09:52:38 06/01/06 (0)
- How original, dehumanize the opposition - real_jj 10:31:05 05/31/06 (1)
- It's about all he CAN do! (nt) - Pat D 13:10:52 06/01/06 (0)
- A word of advice. - cheap-Jack 12:52:05 05/30/06 (4)
- What's your point? - real_jj 13:22:42 05/30/06 (3)
- Quoting Einstein makes one theoretically relative. (nt) - soulfood 08:57:40 05/31/06 (2)
- Generally Relative, maybe, even.... - real_jj 10:05:13 05/31/06 (1)
- 'Proper' is elusive. Yes gravity, metaphorical name-dropping. (nt) - soulfood 17:00:56 05/31/06 (0)
- Good point about "science". - cheap-Jack 11:42:23 05/30/06 (0)
Follow Ups
- I do know that authority has no role in the scientific method, one must demonstrate ones understanding of the research. - Norm 08:40:07 05/31/06 (3)
- Is there some reason you bothered to say that? - real_jj 09:58:23 05/31/06 (2)
- Only that you claim authority. nt - Norm 12:11:07 05/31/06 (1)
- Bad form, Norm... - real_jj 14:13:14 05/31/06 (0)