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In Reply to: 11. [New] Lower System RAM posted by cics on May 1, 2007 at 02:20:36:
I actually found matching the RAM clock speed to the FSB yielded the best results. And also reducing latency timings yielded even better results.For example, the computer I'm building is actually intended to be the workhorse (for my graphic design work), but I'm testing different parameters to see what would be optimal if/when I build a dedicated computer audio transport. So, I have the 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo and DDR2 800 RAM. (With the RAM latency timings at 4-4-4-12 and Memory voltage at 2.0) If I change the RAM to DDR2 533 to match the FSB clock of 266 MHz, it is an audible improvement. But the best configuration so far is when I reduce the FSB to 200 MHz (giving my CPU a 1.8GHz speed and lower voltage) and then changing the RAM to DDR2 400 (which allows me to have latency timings of 3-2-2-6 and voltage of 1.8)
I should also mention I play my music from a RAMDisk (so the HDD is not used at all during music play) and I have all buffer settings in foobar at 0 (I feel foobar's buffering messes up the timing/jitter) including 0 buffer in the ASIO settings. And in my soundcard control panel (M-Audio USB Audiophile) I am able to reduce latency all the way down to 512. (I used to listen to it maxed out at 4096 and 512 is much better) If I eliminate the use of SRC in foobar I can drop the latency even lower (with even better results). But I like the sound of 24/96, so I'm experimenting with offline processing by Voxengo r8brain Pro to create 24/96 WAVs (which allows me to eliminate the SRC DSP in foobar and keep lower latency with my M-Audio). Sounds great. Really 3D.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - The art of building Computer Transports - cics 08:00:10 04/05/07 (204)
- Version 0.3 is available. See new thread link... - cics 04:24:23 09/15/07 (0)
- Is Secret Rabbit technically challenged? - 64 bit 23:44:12 08/29/07 (1)
- Nope. Its still the best way to upsample, more... - cics 01:21:31 08/30/07 (0)
- VIA low power system? - Patrick82 14:19:03 06/07/07 (2)
- RE: VIA low power system? - loud'a03086 09:52:53 06/25/07 (0)
- Definitely worth a try. I would suggest... - cics 11:53:59 06/08/07 (0)
- WAV is smoother than FLAC - Patrick82 15:15:20 06/06/07 (1)
- RE: WAV is smoother than FLAC - cics 12:00:56 06/07/07 (0)
- Re: The art of building Computer Transports - jawilsonmozo 14:48:31 05/23/07 (0)
- Zalman TNN-300 case with Enermax 485 watt PSU - cics 09:09:55 05/07/07 (4)
- Zalman's replacement PSU is better... - cics 11:29:43 06/07/07 (0)
- XG Magnum - kgiessler 09:13:11 05/20/07 (2)
- RE: XG Magnum - cics 09:52:25 05/20/07 (1)
- RE: XG Magnum - kgiessler 10:00:06 05/20/07 (0)
- How deep the Rabbit hole goes? - cics 02:23:40 05/01/07 (2)
- Re: How deep the Rabbit hole goes? - texastea006@yahoo.com 07:08:52 05/01/07 (1)
- Re: How deep the Rabbit hole goes? - edward 15:55:47 05/02/07 (0)
- Have you tried changing affinity? - edward 12:07:27 04/18/07 (18)
- Re: Have you tried changing affinity? - cics 05:58:42 04/19/07 (17)
- Re: Have you tried changing affinity? - texastea006@yahoo.com 09:45:26 04/19/07 (16)
- Re: Have you tried changing affinity? - texastea006@yahoo.com 14:14:27 05/09/07 (15)
- Yes, it works! I get similar improvements and better dynamics - cics 03:35:58 05/12/07 (11)
- With this setup, Quantum Physics Noise Disruptor works very well on soundcard. - cics 06:43:30 05/14/07 (0)
- Only run second "?.bat" (which calls foobar.bat) - cics 03:49:02 05/12/07 (9)
- Re: Only run second "?.bat" (which calls foobar.bat) - texastea006@yahoo.com 11:17:05 05/15/07 (8)
- Winlogon and smss.exe set to low and one processor - cics 10:13:04 05/17/07 (7)
- Try this change - cics 10:24:37 05/17/07 (6)
- Re: Try this change - texastea006@yahoo.com 06:19:11 08/21/07 (0)
- Re: Also change 'System' process priority to low - cics 07:18:13 06/29/07 (0)
- Can you clarify please. - edward 15:05:05 05/17/07 (3)
- Re: Can you clarify please. - cics 11:35:37 05/18/07 (2)
- Re: Can you clarify please. - edward 20:50:23 05/18/07 (1)
- Re: Can you clarify please. - cics 22:35:40 05/19/07 (0)
- Re: Have you tried changing affinity? - edward 19:37:30 05/09/07 (2)
- Re: Have you tried changing affinity? - texastea006@yahoo.com 21:23:20 05/09/07 (1)
- Re: Have you tried changing affinity? - edward 23:26:59 05/09/07 (0)
- Changes to Version 0.1 - cics 10:20:23 04/18/07 (85)
- 17 [New] Windows system startup changes - cics 01:56:46 08/04/07 (6)
- RE: 17 [New] Windows system startup changes - texastea006@yahoo.com 06:23:13 08/21/07 (5)
- Also add '/nodebug' which works on my Dell PC but avoid '/pcilock' on Dell (pity) - cics 01:44:15 08/22/07 (4)
- RE: Also add '/nodebug' which works on my Dell PC but avoid '/pcilock' on Dell (pity) - texastea006@yahoo.com 10:08:25 08/27/07 (0)
- RE: Also add '/nodebug' which works on my Dell PC but avoid '/pcilock' on Dell (pity) - texastea006@yahoo.com 06:29:27 08/22/07 (2)
- RE: Also add '/nodebug' which works on my Dell PC but avoid '/pcilock' on Dell (pity) - texastea006@yahoo.com 12:00:05 08/26/07 (1)
- RE: Also add '/nodebug' which works on my Dell PC but avoid '/pcilock' on Dell (pity) - cics 01:08:22 08/30/07 (0)
- 16. [Change] Use latest Intel Pentium Dual Core processor (E2140) over recommended Core 2 Duo E6300 - cics 08:35:47 06/14/07 (3)
- Try AGP aperture 32MB and AGP speed 8x. In Windows set power scheme in Power Options to 'Home/Office Desk' - cics 00:19:56 06/16/07 (2)
- RE: Try AGP aperture 32MB and AGP speed 8x. In Windows set power scheme in Power Options to 'Home/Office Desk' - texastea006@yahoo.com 11:08:05 06/21/07 (1)
- Gone back to AGP 4x and Power Scheme set to 'Portable/Laptop' with aperture at 32MB - cics 23:03:25 06/21/07 (0)
- 15. [Change] Disable Windows Prefetcher - cics 09:41:52 05/30/07 (0)
- 14. [Change] Remove Windows Programs - cics 09:37:16 05/30/07 (2)
- Networking Services - cics 09:39:59 05/30/07 (0)
- Accessories and Utilities - cics 09:38:42 05/30/07 (0)
- 13. [Change] Windows Startup & Recovery - cics 09:34:34 05/30/07 (0)
- 12. [New] Further culling of Windows using AutoRuns - cics 09:26:56 05/30/07 (12)
- RE: 12. [New] Further culling of Windows using AutoRuns - nola_powerman 10:17:52 05/30/07 (8)
- Start Windows in Safe Mode then enable vgasave - cics 12:20:17 05/30/07 (7)
- RE: Start Windows in Safe Mode then enable vgasave - nola_powerman 07:04:50 05/31/07 (6)
- RE: Start Windows in Safe Mode then enable vgasave - cics 07:53:59 05/31/07 (5)
- RE: Start Windows in Safe Mode then enable vgasave - texastea006@yahoo.com 11:44:54 05/31/07 (4)
- RE: Start Windows in Safe Mode then enable vgasave - cics 14:56:15 05/31/07 (3)
- RE: Start Windows in Safe Mode then enable vgasave - texastea006@yahoo.com 08:01:05 06/01/07 (2)
- RE: Start Windows in Safe Mode then enable vgasave - cics 01:27:39 06/02/07 (1)
- RE: Start Windows in Safe Mode then enable vgasave - texastea006@yahoo.com 05:21:37 06/03/07 (0)
- Print Monitors TAB - cics 09:31:41 05/30/07 (0)
- Network Providers TAB - cics 09:30:32 05/30/07 (0)
- Explorer TAB - cics 09:28:41 05/30/07 (0)
- 11. [New] Lower System RAM - cics 02:20:36 05/01/07 (11)
- Re: 11. [New] Lower System RAM - giulio 22:40:54 09/30/07 (1)
- Foobar track buffering - cics 23:52:01 10/01/07 (0)
- Re: 11. [New] Lower System RAM - edward 15:53:23 05/02/07 (8)
- Re: 11. [New] Lower System RAM - cics 09:07:22 05/03/07 (7)
- Re: 11. [New] Lower System RAM - edward 21:17:56 05/03/07 (6)
- which mobo do you use? - nc 12:21:53 06/21/07 (0)
- Re: 11. [New] Lower System RAM - cics 08:50:43 05/07/07 (4)
- Re: 11. [New] Lower System RAM - texastea006@yahoo.com 14:25:55 05/09/07 (2)
- Re: 11. [New] Lower System RAM - edward 19:55:39 05/09/07 (1)
- Re: 11. [New] Lower System RAM - texastea006@yahoo.com 21:53:33 05/09/07 (0)
- Stay away from SuperCache ii when using SATA RAID - cics 13:44:18 05/08/07 (0)
- 10. [New] Fewer Windows Services - cics 02:16:24 05/01/07 (2)
- Re: 10. [New] Fewer Windows Services - texastea006@yahoo.com 11:47:57 05/03/07 (1)
- Re: 10. [New] Fewer Windows Services - cics 21:59:21 05/03/07 (0)
- 9. [New] Further BIOS Refinements - cics 02:11:01 05/01/07 (7)
- Enable 'Direct Frame Buffer' - cics 09:24:53 07/10/07 (0)
- Change CPU Cache settings - cics 23:12:02 06/21/07 (1)
- Also Set '1T CMD Support' - cics 01:56:33 06/24/07 (0)
- Re: 9. [New] Further BIOS Refinements - texastea006@yahoo.com 07:28:46 05/03/07 (3)
- Definitely disable 'Execute Disable Bit' - cics 11:25:29 05/03/07 (1)
- Re: Definitely disable 'Execute Disable Bit' - texastea006@yahoo.com 19:23:18 05/03/07 (0)
- Re: 9. [New] Further BIOS Refinements - cics 09:28:41 05/03/07 (0)
- Quantum Physics Noise Disruptor - texastea006@yahoo.com 12:12:21 04/19/07 (0)
- 8. [New] Remove Foobar component: foo_ui_std.dll - cics 23:18:05 04/18/07 (2)
- Re: 8. [New] Remove Foobar component: foo_ui_std.dll - texastea006@yahoo.com 11:14:52 05/04/07 (1)
- Re: 8. [New] Remove Foobar component: foo_ui_std.dll - cics 07:02:24 05/14/07 (0)
- 7. [New] Computer Case/Chassis - cics 10:41:45 04/18/07 (0)
- 6. [New] Bypass Windows Explorer (User Interface) - cics 10:39:36 04/18/07 (10)
- Re: 6. [New] Bypass Windows Explorer (User Interface) - texastea006@yahoo.com 15:24:35 04/20/07 (9)
- It gets even better ... - cics 09:58:53 04/21/07 (8)
- Option 2: Kill Windows – Aggressive - cics 10:06:35 04/21/07 (4)
- Option 2: Kill Windows – Aggressive (Signature Edition) - cics 02:24:52 04/22/07 (3)
- Re: Option 2: Kill Windows – Aggressive (Signature Edition) & Shutdown Problem Fixed! - cics 12:16:53 04/24/07 (2)
- Re: Option 2: Kill Windows – Aggressive (Signature Edition) & Shutdown Problem Fixed! - edward 20:59:07 05/03/07 (1)
- Re: Option 2: Kill Windows – Aggressive (Signature Edition) & Shutdown Problem Fixed! - texastea006@yahoo.com 14:29:32 05/09/07 (0)
- Option 1: Kill Windows – Medium - cics 10:03:21 04/21/07 (2)
- Re: Option 1: Kill Windows – Medium - texastea006@yahoo.com 06:22:44 04/24/07 (1)
- Re: Option 1: Kill Windows – Medium - cics 09:55:12 04/24/07 (0)
- 5. [New] Change to System Cache mode - cics 10:28:42 04/18/07 (0)
- 4. [New] Disable System Devices - cics 10:26:42 04/18/07 (12)
- Summary of Devices to be disabled - cics 09:12:46 05/30/07 (5)
- PCI bus view - cics 09:23:42 05/30/07 (0)
- Disable System Devices - cics 09:21:02 05/30/07 (0)
- Disable Non-Plug and Play Drivers - cics 09:18:50 05/30/07 (0)
- Disable Network Adapters - cics 09:16:34 05/30/07 (0)
- Disable onboard VGA - cics 09:14:52 05/30/07 (0)
- Here's another 2 devices - cics 06:55:18 05/14/07 (5)
- Re: Here's another 2 devices - texastea006@yahoo.com 11:41:37 05/15/07 (4)
- Re: Here's another 2 devices - nola_powerman 08:37:36 05/29/07 (1)
- No audible benefit in disabling audio drivers as KS or ASIO bypasses this... - cics 09:10:23 05/30/07 (0)
- 'Autoruns' is very cool! - cics 09:40:13 05/20/07 (1)
- Have also disabled 'sysaudio' (ASIO bypasses this) and 'swmidi' (wavetable synthesizer) - cics 07:43:35 05/22/07 (0)
- 3. [For Info] LCD / Plasma screen setting - cics 10:25:09 04/18/07 (0)
- 2. [Change] No Video hardware acceleration - cics 10:23:44 04/18/07 (0)
- 1. [Change] Permanent Underclocking - cics 10:22:01 04/18/07 (0)
- More XP tweaks:I'd like you to hear your thoughts. - texastea006@yahoo.com 12:10:46 04/13/07 (7)
- What does disabling items in device manager actually do? - cics 10:09:35 04/15/07 (0)
- Safe to remove & replace power from ROM drive while computer is on? Definite NO. - cics 09:57:45 04/15/07 (0)
- Disable system devices - cics 09:52:49 04/15/07 (4)
- Re: Disable system devices - texastea006@yahoo.com 18:35:48 04/16/07 (3)
- Dell (spread spectrum) & Folder Options - cics 10:31:29 04/17/07 (0)
- Re: Disable system devices - texastea006@yahoo.com 18:55:41 04/16/07 (1)
- Re: Disable system devices - cics 10:48:03 04/18/07 (0)
- Computer case/chassis recommendation - cics 05:48:09 04/12/07 (5)
- Point of note: Steel cases will generally be better for electromagnetic disturbance shielding than aluminum cases. - Ugly 11:42:37 04/12/07 (4)
- "Al provides great E field blocking it will do nothing for H fields" - cics 13:05:38 04/15/07 (0)
- Not sure if steel over aluminium would make a sonic difference - cics 14:09:23 04/12/07 (2)
- Re: Not sure if steel over aluminium would make a sonic difference - Ugly 16:54:05 04/12/07 (1)
- Re: Not sure if steel over aluminium would make a sonic difference - cics 02:59:57 04/13/07 (0)
- Further reduction in Video hardware acceleration - cics 05:19:14 04/10/07 (0)
- It is working but upsampling doesn't seem to buy me anything. - Ugly 01:42:42 04/09/07 (3)
- Re: It is working but upsampling doesn't seem to buy me anything. - artcheng@netvigator.com 02:20:29 04/09/07 (2)
- Re: It is working but upsampling doesn't seem to buy me anything. - Ugly 22:18:41 04/09/07 (0)
- Re: It is working but upsampling doesn't seem to buy me anything. - Ugly 07:19:32 04/09/07 (0)
- Re: The art of building Computer Transports - some questions - aljordan 05:28:13 04/08/07 (5)
- Why setting lower latency in the sound card achieves far superior results? - cics 08:59:11 04/08/07 (0)
- Disable Video BIOS Shadow - cics 08:45:28 04/08/07 (0)
- DVD/CD drive still emit EMI when no CD - cics 08:40:05 04/08/07 (0)
- Remove unnecessary cables within PC incl keyboard - cics 08:30:09 04/08/07 (0)
- 1 x 1024MB vs 2 x 512MB - cics 08:22:56 04/08/07 (0)
- Re: The art of building Computer Transports - fmak 05:10:52 04/08/07 (6)
- Re: The art of building Computer Transports - cics 08:07:11 04/08/07 (5)
- Re: The art of building Computer Transports - fmak 09:08:04 04/08/07 (4)
- Re: The art of building Computer Transports - cics 10:50:51 04/08/07 (3)
- Re: The art of building Computer Transports - fmak 11:25:18 04/08/07 (2)
- Re: The art of building Computer Transports - cics 14:14:21 04/08/07 (1)
- Re: The art of building Computer Transports - fmak 22:41:17 04/08/07 (0)
- Setting LCD/plasma screen resolution - cics 09:14:37 04/07/07 (0)
- Setting for permanent underclocking - cics 03:49:01 04/07/07 (5)
- Re: Setting for permanent underclocking - Dawnrazor 09:51:44 04/07/07 (4)
- Re: Setting for permanent underclocking - cics 12:28:04 04/07/07 (3)
- Re: Setting for permanent underclocking - swarmer 23:49:20 04/09/07 (2)
- Re: Setting for permanent underclocking - swarmer 00:35:13 04/10/07 (1)
- Re: Setting for permanent underclocking - cics 05:41:49 04/10/07 (0)
- Don’t play music from USB drives and Network - cics 10:52:57 04/06/07 (17)
- Re: Don’t play music from USB drives and Network - swarmer 22:04:19 04/10/07 (0)
- Re: Don’t play music from USB drives and Network - artcheng@netvigator.com 22:55:40 04/06/07 (1)
- Yes. - cics 02:04:46 04/07/07 (0)
- Re: Don’t play music from USB drives and Network - artcheng@netvigator.com 22:45:28 04/06/07 (2)
- Could be - not sure. - cics 02:21:59 04/07/07 (1)
- Re: Could be - not sure. - artcheng@netvigator.com 02:32:01 04/07/07 (0)
- Not necessarily - Christine Tham 15:31:34 04/06/07 (10)
- Re: Not necessarily - cics 20:28:27 04/06/07 (9)
- Re: Not necessarily - Christine Tham 21:11:53 04/06/07 (8)
- Re: Not necessarily - cics 03:19:40 04/07/07 (7)
- I'm not sure I understand you - Christine Tham 19:37:45 04/07/07 (4)
- Re: I'm not sure I understand you - cics 07:55:02 04/08/07 (3)
- Re: I'm not sure I understand you - KeithC 13:09:03 04/08/07 (2)
- Design goal is to elliminate all IO overheads - cics 23:04:53 04/08/07 (0)
- Hardware RAID is implemented - cics 22:49:12 04/08/07 (0)
- Re: underclocking - aljordan 16:09:02 04/07/07 (1)
- Re: underclocking - aljordan 16:12:23 04/07/07 (0)
- Some additional suggestions - Christine Tham 01:50:41 04/06/07 (14)
- Flash - jbmcb 07:56:25 04/06/07 (11)
- Re: Flash - artcheng@netvigator.com 23:08:27 04/06/07 (0)
- Re: Flash - artcheng@netvigator.com 22:51:41 04/06/07 (0)
- Check out something called "EWF" - Christine Tham 15:10:09 04/06/07 (8)
- Re: Check out something called "EWF" - Bubba 19:56:20 04/06/07 (0)
- Re: Check out something called "EWF" - Dawnrazor 15:27:38 04/06/07 (6)
- Google is your friend - Christine Tham 15:33:41 04/06/07 (5)
- By the way, if you do follow the instructions ... - Christine Tham 15:49:53 04/06/07 (3)
- Re: By the way, if you do follow the instructions ... - Dawnrazor 19:21:12 04/06/07 (2)
- The "trial" period is for Windows XP Embedded ... - Christine Tham 21:18:06 04/06/07 (1)
- Thanks - Dawnrazor 21:46:52 04/06/07 (0)
- Re: Google is your friend - Dawnrazor 15:43:33 04/06/07 (0)
- Spread spectrum - gbeard 04:53:23 04/06/07 (1)
- Re: Spread spectrum - Christine Tham 15:18:44 04/06/07 (0)
- Great Post - thanks! - navman 13:38:02 04/05/07 (0)
- Re: The art of building Computer Transports - ASB 12:31:05 04/05/07 (0)
- this is worth at least $600 - bobp 09:37:18 04/05/07 (7)
- Re: this is worth at least $600 - aljordan 15:42:51 04/07/07 (1)
- 120mm fans - bobp 22:27:31 04/07/07 (0)
- Bobp, you're right, cases are important and affect sound. More... - cics 20:39:15 04/05/07 (4)
- I completely ignored the case and fans and couldn't be happier - pburke 11:13:18 04/09/07 (1)
- Re: I completely ignored the case and fans and couldn't be happier - artcheng@netvigator.com 07:22:20 04/10/07 (0)
- BTX motherboards - laznos 18:02:25 04/06/07 (0)
- Re: Bobp, you're right, cases are important and affect sound. More... - bobp 22:17:55 04/05/07 (0)
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- Re: 11. [New] Lower System RAM - edward 15:53:23 05/02/07 (8)
- Re: 11. [New] Lower System RAM - cics 09:07:22 05/03/07 (7)
- Re: 11. [New] Lower System RAM - edward 21:17:56 05/03/07 (6)
- which mobo do you use? - nc 12:21:53 06/21/07 (0)
- Re: 11. [New] Lower System RAM - cics 08:50:43 05/07/07 (4)
- Re: 11. [New] Lower System RAM - texastea006@yahoo.com 14:25:55 05/09/07 (2)
- Re: 11. [New] Lower System RAM - edward 19:55:39 05/09/07 (1)
- Re: 11. [New] Lower System RAM - texastea006@yahoo.com 21:53:33 05/09/07 (0)
- Stay away from SuperCache ii when using SATA RAID - cics 13:44:18 05/08/07 (0)