I wanted to share a chat that I had with ChatGPT about LMS, basically inspired by a weird, bold and misleading remark from another inmate "I know everyone knocks LMS aka 'LYRION Music Server' as being old and outdated".
Below conversation IMO gives a kind of different view on the subject.
However. As you'll see, ChatGPT also needs some steering. ;)
Enjoy.
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You said:
Have you heard about Lyrion Music Server?
ChatGPT said:
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Lyrion Music Server is the new name for the formerly known Logitech Media Server (LMS), marking a shift away from Logitech's involvement while maintaining the same core software. It's a free, open-source music server that continues to support a variety of audio players, including legacy Logitech Squeezebox devices and more modern options like Raspberry Pi-based systems.
Lyrion allows users to stream from local music libraries, streaming services (like Spotify), podcasts, and internet radio. It can run on lightweight hardware such as NAS devices or even Raspberry Pi, making it an affordable and versatile option for music enthusiasts. A key feature is its ability to synchronize music playback across multiple devices and control playback through both mobile devices and computers. It also supports a range of plugins, expanding its functionality to include Chromecast, AirPlay, and UPnP support.
The transition from Logitech Media Server to Lyrion Music Server is largely a rebranding effort, but development is actively ongoing with new versions and features still being released(
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You said:
Do you have any clue how widely LMS is spread in the market?
ChatGPT said:
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The exact market share of the Lyrion Music Server (formerly known as Logitech Media Server) is hard to pinpoint, as it's open-source and widely used in DIY audio projects, often without formal tracking. However, some insights into its reach can be gathered:
Legacy User Base: Lyrion has a strong following among users of Logitech Squeezebox devices, which were discontinued in 2012. These users continue to rely on LMS to keep their devices functional(
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Raspberry Pi Popularity: LMS has gained popularity due to its compatibility with low-cost hardware like the Raspberry Pi. Many hobbyists use it to build custom music servers, especially given its flexibility and ease of integration with systems like Home Assistant(
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Community Growth: Despite Logitech's exit from the hardware side, the community has remained vibrant. Data gathered by Lyrion indicates that the number of connected LMS players is still increasing, which suggests steady or growing user interest, particularly among those who build their own players or use software clients like Squeezelite(
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Global Distribution: LMS is utilized across various platforms like NAS devices (Synology, QNAP, etc.), making it widespread among tech-savvy users globally. However, its presence tends to be more significant in niche markets like audiophiles and open-source enthusiasts rather than mainstream consumers(
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Thus, while not a dominant player like Spotify or Plex in the general music server market, LMS has a strong presence within specialized communities.
You said:
LMS as home streaming platform offers Spotify, Qobuz and Tidal Plugins. It's not the same market. The main competition is IMO Roon.
ChatGPT said:
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You're right that Lyrion Music Server (LMS) operates in a different niche from platforms like Spotify and Tidal. LMS primarily serves as a versatile home music server, integrating with various streaming services via plugins but not as a direct streaming service itself.
As for Roon, it indeed presents a significant competition to LMS in terms of home streaming platforms. Roon offers a premium user experience with features like rich metadata, seamless integration of local music libraries with streaming services (Qobuz, Tidal), multi-room playback, and advanced music discovery tools. Roon's focus on high-quality audio (including support for lossless formats and MQA) and its sleek, user-friendly interface make it highly attractive to audiophiles.
LMS, in contrast, appeals to more technically inclined users who enjoy the flexibility of customizing their music system with plugins, open-source software, and inexpensive hardware setups like Raspberry Pi(
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The competition between LMS and Roon mostly centers on the user experience: LMS is highly configurable and free, while Roon offers a streamlined but paid service.
You said:
LMS offers what you're listing as Roon differentiators. LMS offers pretty much the same features as Roon. But it's free of charge.
ChatGPT said:
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You're right that LMS offers many features comparable to Roon, and in many ways, LMS can indeed rival Roon-especially for users comfortable with technical setups. LMS supports key features like:
Multi-room audio: LMS allows synchronized playback across various devices in different rooms, just like Roon.
High-resolution audio support: LMS supports high-resolution audio formats like FLAC and WAV, similar to Roon's focus on high-quality audio(
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Integration with streaming services: LMS plugins enable integration with major services such as Spotify, Qobuz, Tidal, and even internet radio, providing access to a wide range of content(
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Metadata and libraries: LMS can manage large local libraries with detailed metadata, and there are third-party plugins that enhance album art and metadata, similar to Roon's hallmark features(
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While Roon offers an out-of-the-box, highly polished experience with advanced metadata features (e.g., artist bios, album reviews, and links between related artists or albums), LMS is highly customizable through its plugin ecosystem. This makes LMS a highly attractive alternative, especially since it's free and open-source.
In essence, for audiophiles or users willing to invest time in customization, LMS can match or exceed Roon's capabilities, but without the premium price tag.
You said:
Jee. We're getting there. ;)
ChatGPT said:
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Glad we're on the same page! It seems like Lyrion Music Server (LMS) and Roon really are much closer in functionality than many realize. Both offer advanced features like high-res audio, multi-room streaming, and streaming service integration. The key difference lies in the polish and user experience-Roon offers an out-of-the-box, user-friendly interface with deeper, built-in metadata insights, while LMS requires some configuration but is completely free and open-source.
For users who love to tinker and customize their setups, LMS might actually be the better option, especially since it offers almost all of the same capabilities without a subscription fee!
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