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In Reply to: WOW! posted by Charles Hansen on April 5, 2006 at 20:41:53:
it actually helps me understand things myself to try to explain it to a non-technical person- you have to try to think in terms of pictures, not numbers...and at least Teresa admitted there was another train of thought, which is progress.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - More confirmation that Sony knows what they are doing, from sources other than Sony and Philips. - Teresa 04:40:20 04/02/06 (72)
- Nothing in this life is perfect. PCM has its flaws, so does DSD - crooner 00:34:52 04/03/06 (6)
- I could use new strings on my Guitar, it still plays and sounds fine though - Teresa 03:48:45 04/03/06 (5)
- Teresa do you still have your old CDs? - crooner 18:58:43 04/03/06 (2)
- Re: Teresa do you still have your old CDs? - No all have been sold here, on AudiogoN and eBay - Teresa 20:04:06 04/03/06 (1)
- Error in above post. - Teresa 01:05:44 04/06/06 (0)
- Teresa you should try the new Squeezebox 3 - crooner 16:41:37 04/03/06 (1)
- I'll pass thanks! (nt) - Teresa 20:19:32 04/03/06 (0)
- Just for fun, I implemented the algorithm I posted earlier in Excel - Christine Tham 15:53:15 04/02/06 (4)
- Third example: Sine wave at 1kHz at 64fs - Christine Tham 16:24:27 04/02/06 (2)
- you do realize that the range of your algorithm... - tunenut 16:33:07 04/02/06 (1)
- Actually, it's not *my* algorithm, but it does assume the input is normalised to -1 to 1 (nt) - Christine Tham 16:36:29 04/02/06 (0)
- Here's another example - Sine wave at 20kHz at 64fs - Christine Tham 16:13:25 04/02/06 (0)
- Re: More confirmation that Sony knows what they are doing, from sources other than Sony and Philips. - Dave Kingsland 14:17:54 04/02/06 (13)
- It was a good try -- really, it was! - Charles Hansen 19:46:18 04/02/06 (11)
- Charles you also cannot ignore the inverters of DSD and pretend to know more. - Teresa 19:52:35 04/02/06 (10)
- OK...it's about time to 'agree to disagree'.... - Chris Garrett 20:47:39 04/02/06 (7)
- Digital Techno-Harpies Might Just Fly the Coop!... - Waldteufel 13:52:11 04/04/06 (0)
- Yes Chris why not close this thread as it's three people against the inventors of DSD and I'm stuck in the middle! - Teresa 20:59:59 04/02/06 (5)
- Re: Yes Chris why not close this thread as it's three people against the inventors of DSD and I'm stuck in the middle! - azure 07:11:05 04/03/06 (4)
- That's when the Sony guys came out to refute that paper, but claimed it was really 'quasi-8 bit'.... - Chris Garrett 19:52:38 04/03/06 (3)
- Re: That's when the Sony guys came out to refute that paper, but claimed it was really 'quasi-8 bit'.... - Beauregard 23:38:37 04/03/06 (2)
- Re: That's when the Sony guys came out to refute that paper, but claimed it was really 'quasi-8 bit'.... - graemme 16:27:12 04/04/06 (1)
- Thank you! And no need to bother with the reference... - Beauregard 22:52:48 04/04/06 (0)
- I give up Teresa -- you're right. I'm an "ass". - Charles Hansen 20:19:36 04/02/06 (1)
- He gave a technical writer the raw materials to write the White Paper, yes - Teresa 20:46:30 04/02/06 (0)
- These are Sony’s rules not mine I didn’t invent DSD, that's between you Dr. Yoshio Yamasaki and Sony. - Teresa 18:55:22 04/02/06 (0)
- Hey, its no longer April Fools... you can quit now :) [nt] - Steve Cortez 06:29:06 04/02/06 (45)
- So Frank and Tunenut were playing an April Fools joke on me causing me to do all this research? - Teresa 06:42:41 04/02/06 (44)
- Re: So Frank and Tunenut were playing an April Fools joke on me causing me to do all this research? - azure 08:38:43 04/02/06 (43)
- Thanks so much that is very good to know! - Teresa 08:58:48 04/02/06 (42)
- Here's a pdf file to read - tunenut 10:00:22 04/02/06 (41)
- What is wrong with you? - Charles Hansen 10:16:50 04/02/06 (40)
- This one didn't disagree with Sony either! (nt) - Teresa 19:14:51 04/02/06 (0)
- I honestly don't know - tunenut 10:52:53 04/02/06 (38)
- the pdf you provided "A Brief Introduction to Sigma Delta Conversion does not disagree with Sony, in fact it: - Teresa 19:24:38 04/02/06 (37)
- please examine the block diagrem in Figure 1 - tunenut 19:28:21 04/02/06 (36)
- I prefer text but I am looking at the Figure 1 right now - Teresa 19:47:41 04/02/06 (35)
- The DAC in the diagram.. - Frank.. 00:08:09 04/03/06 (2)
- Frank I read about this that the best performace is when you use the same DAC for both recording and playback. - Teresa 04:03:35 04/03/06 (1)
- It would. - Frank.. 04:45:22 04/03/06 (0)
- and there's your problem right there - tunenut 20:29:55 04/02/06 (31)
- so in that case nowhere in that pdf does it discuss - Teresa 20:50:15 04/02/06 (30)
- sorry this time I really am done - tunenut 21:02:40 04/02/06 (29)
- Yes I have but I am only the go-between here, it is you against the designers of DSD. - Teresa 21:33:14 04/02/06 (0)
- BTW a blast from the past - tunenut 21:32:17 04/02/06 (27)
- Do you remember it because Demery proved you wrong in the same breath he said you were right? - Teresa 21:50:38 04/02/06 (26)
- Re: Do you remember it because Demery proved you wrong in the same breath he said you were right? - Dave Kingsland 06:08:36 04/03/06 (20)
- Curious, so why are they not the same thing? - Teresa 06:56:19 04/03/06 (19)
- OK here goes the ultra simple version - tunenut 09:53:58 04/03/06 (18)
- Re: OK here goes the ultra simple version - Teresa 00:14:44 04/05/06 (10)
- you are almost there - tunenut 06:39:51 04/05/06 (8)
- As I have said before it is not my propositions (I am in the middle) It is you not agreeing with these other pdf files. - Teresa 16:38:07 04/05/06 (1)
- BTW one more point - tunenut 09:17:20 04/05/06 (6)
- As I said before I don't have any misunderstanding that is between you and the writers of the pdf's and other documents. - Teresa 16:48:21 04/05/06 (5)
- Re: As I said before I don't have any misunderstanding that is between you and the writers of the pdf's and other docume - tunenut 17:00:15 04/05/06 (4)
- Finally; logic sans ego...thanks for pulling the weeds(nt) - Waldteufel 11:02:52 04/13/06 (0)
- DOUBLE WOW!! - Metralla 21:14:47 04/05/06 (0)
- WOW! - Charles Hansen 20:41:53 04/05/06 (1)
- I think it's about beaten to death - tunenut 21:18:16 04/05/06 (0)
- Still not correct.. - Frank.. 06:35:10 04/05/06 (0)
- Very nice explanation! - Charles Hansen 21:46:19 04/03/06 (6)
- thank you - tunenut 08:50:40 04/04/06 (2)
- You are a moron :-) - Christine Tham 22:30:16 04/04/06 (1)
- LOL! - Charles Hansen 20:37:58 04/05/06 (0)
- Agreed - both of you have been very helpful - Metralla 05:55:03 04/04/06 (2)
- Ditto...Even if Teresa didn't learn anything...I did; nt - Pacman 12:47:24 04/04/06 (1)
- I learned there are two trains of thought on this issue and I have decided to accept neither one - Teresa 16:53:45 04/05/06 (0)
- Demery is full off marketing junk. - Frank.. 23:46:37 04/02/06 (4)
- Frank I no longer care. The engineers can argue all they want. (nt) - Teresa 16:59:32 04/05/06 (3)
- I'm pretty sure the engineers aren't the ones who are aguing. - Charles Hansen 22:45:41 04/05/06 (2)
- Not according to the Internet - Teresa 23:43:44 04/05/06 (1)
- Sounds good to me - Charles Hansen 07:55:58 04/06/06 (0)
Follow Ups
- I think it's about beaten to death - tunenut 21:18:16 04/05/06 (0)
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