Yes! And cats are different than tractors! - Michi

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Topic - How SACD and DSD work from "Super Audio Compact Disc A Technical Proposal" - Teresa 18:02:11 03/29/06 (66)

Re: How SACD and DSD work from "Super Audio Compact Disc A Technical Proposal" - fmak 20:46:41 03/29/06 (4)

The first Philips SACD player used a 10 year old DAC - Slider 12:49:08 03/30/06 (0)

no. no. You don't get it, but if you're making a statement like that, you aren't going to. - Michi 21:03:08 03/29/06 (2)

Re: no. no. You don't get it, but if you're making a statement like that, you aren't going to. - fmak 04:19:46 03/30/06 (0)

He knows that ! (nt) - SACD9 21:18:09 03/29/06 (0)

Technical analysis is not your strong suit, Teresa - Metralla 19:42:43 03/29/06 (23)

It says what it says and that is what it means! - Teresa 20:44:21 03/29/06 (22)

um. As plain as day you just... quoted your source.... saying it's 1-bit delta sigma. - Michi 21:04:50 03/29/06 (21)

I said it was different than PCM. (;-) - Teresa 21:13:12 03/29/06 (20)

Yes! And cats are different than tractors! - Michi 21:22:30 03/29/06 (19)

Not if these upsampling CDs players from 15 years ago are 1 Bit PDM not 1 Bit PCM. - Teresa 21:28:50 03/29/06 (18)

Actually, you do have a point, but it's not PDM vs PCM - Christine Tham 22:22:56 03/29/06 (15)

Actually... - Frank.. 23:06:11 03/29/06 (14)

Not really - Christine Tham 02:47:42 03/30/06 (13)

Don't bother.... - Frank.. 05:03:30 03/30/06 (12)

actually neither is perfect - tunenut 08:30:40 03/30/06 (7)

You forget that... - Frank.. 09:20:54 03/30/06 (6)

ridiculous - tunenut 12:59:40 03/30/06 (5)

My mistake... - Frank.. 04:45:09 03/31/06 (4)

true - tunenut 08:40:55 03/31/06 (3)

The difference... - Frank.. 11:41:27 03/31/06 (2)

now you're talking about a specific implementation - tunenut 12:59:06 03/31/06 (1)

Re: now you're talking about a specific implementation - Frank.. 01:05:12 04/04/06 (1)

Re: Don't bother....- Perefct? - fmak 06:13:51 03/30/06 (3)

Re: Don't bother....- Perefct? - Frank.. 08:50:53 03/30/06 (2)

Re: Don't bother....- Perefct? - fmak 09:27:22 03/30/06 (1)

...but not Hyper-ventilating? ;) (NT) - robert young 13:28:48 03/30/06 (0)

1-bit PCM? wow. - Michi 21:44:00 03/29/06 (1)

Have fun! The only 1 Bit system I've ever studied is DSD as that was the only one I was interested in. - Teresa 21:58:30 03/29/06 (0)

What is this, the year 2001 all over again? (nt) - paulcordingley 18:05:43 03/29/06 (36)

Deja Vu Paul. It has to do with incorrect information about DSD & DSD Upsampling in the thread below - Teresa 18:11:41 03/29/06 (35)

Teresa, it's STILL just a 1-bit delta-sigma PDM pulse bistream. - Michi 19:38:52 03/29/06 (27)

Did you even bother to read the Super Audio Compact Disc A Technical Proposal I linked? - Teresa 20:55:43 03/29/06 (24)

Teresa, are you allright? - Michi 20:59:47 03/29/06 (23)

I'm not rebutting what you think I am? - Teresa 21:19:28 03/29/06 (22)

What the paper reallys says - Pacman 17:47:13 03/30/06 (0)

I don't know what you are... - Frank.. 09:27:08 03/30/06 (20)

Exact quotes from the white papers, none of this is MY words - Teresa 16:18:55 03/30/06 (19)

I quoted your words exactly as you posted them... - Frank.. 22:30:05 03/30/06 (14)

Once again they are not my words but the words of the inventors of DSD and SACD - Teresa 23:13:45 03/30/06 (13)

Re: Once again they are not my words but the words of the inventors of DSD and SACD - Frank.. 04:52:30 03/31/06 (12)

Incorrect read the white paper before foaming at the mouth. YOU ARE DEAD WRONG FRANK AND YOU KNOW IT! - Teresa 14:09:43 03/31/06 (11)

Uhmm...actually... - Charles Hansen 10:02:35 04/01/06 (10)

So why is Frank and Tunenut saying this is impossible? (nt) - Teresa 14:54:49 04/01/06 (9)

Re: So why is Frank and Tunenut saying this is impossible? (nt) - Charles Hansen 17:03:49 04/01/06 (8)

There is no difference Charles and I've got proof that Sony knew what they were doing when they invented SACDs - Teresa 18:35:17 04/01/06 (7)

There is a big gap in your understanding - Charles Hansen 22:24:32 04/01/06 (6)

How is it that I am playing an SACD and it works. You are trying to make Sony engineers stupid, they are not stupid! - Teresa 03:32:46 04/02/06 (5)

How can you be so willfully ignorant? - Charles Hansen 06:38:53 04/02/06 (4)

So someone reversed a diagram! It does not change the fundament principles of DSD - Teresa 07:09:23 04/02/06 (3)

Did you ever see the original Star Trek movie? - Charles Hansen 07:21:23 04/02/06 (2)

No fuses to blow it is not my statement, it is the statements of the designers of DSD - Teresa 07:53:20 04/02/06 (1)

Oh, I get it! - Charles Hansen 10:21:25 04/02/06 (0)

the white paper is wrong - tunenut 17:07:56 03/30/06 (3)

Tthe white paper is right: If the waveform falls relative to the accumulated value, a digital "0" is output. - Teresa 17:41:00 03/30/06 (2)

Frank? - tunenut 18:35:50 03/30/06 (1)

sorry Tunenut, Frank's was the post before yours. (;-) nt - Teresa 18:43:02 03/30/06 (0)

Polish cheese - odd 20:30:57 03/29/06 (1)

Do you prefer your Smoked Kurpianka in DSD or PCM format? (nt) - sleeper 21:28:28 03/29/06 (0)

no matter how many times you say this, it's still wrong... - tunenut 18:45:39 03/29/06 (6)

Because it's true, "Super Audio Compact Disc A Technical Proposal" has never been successfully challenged! - Teresa 20:49:06 03/29/06 (5)

it's not a difference in signal amplitude - tunenut 08:25:26 03/30/06 (0)

theres... nothing to challenge........... - Michi 21:00:57 03/29/06 (3)

If you can't challenge how DSD works? Why are you trying to? (;-) NT - Teresa 21:22:28 03/29/06 (2)

I'm trying to challenge how DSD works? - Michi 21:24:13 03/29/06 (1)

Right here you admitted you couldn't challenge how it works: - Teresa 21:35:11 03/29/06 (0)

Follow Ups

Yes! And cats are different than tractors! - Michi 21:22:30 03/29/06 (19)

Not if these upsampling CDs players from 15 years ago are 1 Bit PDM not 1 Bit PCM. - Teresa 21:28:50 03/29/06 (18)

Actually, you do have a point, but it's not PDM vs PCM - Christine Tham 22:22:56 03/29/06 (15)

Actually... - Frank.. 23:06:11 03/29/06 (14)

Not really - Christine Tham 02:47:42 03/30/06 (13)

Don't bother.... - Frank.. 05:03:30 03/30/06 (12)

actually neither is perfect - tunenut 08:30:40 03/30/06 (7)

You forget that... - Frank.. 09:20:54 03/30/06 (6)

ridiculous - tunenut 12:59:40 03/30/06 (5)

My mistake... - Frank.. 04:45:09 03/31/06 (4)

true - tunenut 08:40:55 03/31/06 (3)

The difference... - Frank.. 11:41:27 03/31/06 (2)

now you're talking about a specific implementation - tunenut 12:59:06 03/31/06 (1)

Re: now you're talking about a specific implementation - Frank.. 01:05:12 04/04/06 (1)

Re: Don't bother....- Perefct? - fmak 06:13:51 03/30/06 (3)

Re: Don't bother....- Perefct? - Frank.. 08:50:53 03/30/06 (2)

Re: Don't bother....- Perefct? - fmak 09:27:22 03/30/06 (1)

...but not Hyper-ventilating? ;) (NT) - robert young 13:28:48 03/30/06 (0)

1-bit PCM? wow. - Michi 21:44:00 03/29/06 (1)

Have fun! The only 1 Bit system I've ever studied is DSD as that was the only one I was interested in. - Teresa 21:58:30 03/29/06 (0)