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Chris from Lafayette

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In Reply to: RE: Mastering/cutting 1970s DGG Bruckner Karajan posted by Munkie_NL on February 07, 2025 at 07:55:07

One could certainly tell by listening that all the recording technology vagaries you mention were incorporated in many of those 70's and 80's DG recordings. However, the latest digital remasters I heard seemed quite a bit more sophisticated to me, remastered with more of the "art which conceals the art". I'm sure that the new vinyl edition you mention will be similarly improved - or perhaps even more so. As for me, I'm of course hoping for a Dolby Atmos remaster of those Karajan/Bruckner recordings at some point (similar to what DG did on his 70's DG set of the Beethoven Symphonies).

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RE: Is that out yet? - dgaapc7 14:17:46 02/07/25 (4)
I'd be more interested if I liked more of Bruckner's symphonies.
LowIQ
- Really love Mahler. Bored by Bruckner. - sisterray 17:35:51 02/07/25 (3)
  I know that there are Bruckner fans because they are already Mahler fans. To me, Bruckner never goes anywhere. I don't hear much development. His symphonies also seem very long, and, coupled with little development, bore me.
  
  "'Cause when love is gone, there's always justice./And when justice is gone, there's always force./And when force is gone, there's always Mom. Hi Mom!" Laurie Anderson, "O Superman (For Massenet)"
  - I suspect that, at some point, you both will appreciate. . . - Chris from Lafayette 02:14:51 02/08/25 (2)
    . . . "the eternal road of glory" which is a Bruckner Symphony. (Actually, this phrase was used by a contemporaneous listener in describing the finale of Bruckner's Fifth Symphony - He is reported to have said, "When I listened to this work, I felt as if I were on the eternal road of glory!".)
    
    And it's hard to watch a college footbal game these days without hearing one of the bands play a little repeating phrase (six notes!) from that same Symphony. It was probably incorporated into some rock song I'm not aware of! ;-). Anyway, I've got this YouTube video cued up to just the right place:
    
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    - RE: I suspect that, at some point, you both will appreciate. . . - dgaapc7 15:07:12 02/08/25 (1)
      No, I don't think I will. Like Mahler, I like a movement here or there, but I've tried for about 4-5 decades to like his work in general, and no-go. Like the fourth and seventh symphonies, especially the Karajan seventh with the VPO, his last recording, but for everything else, not so much. I have to say, though, I don't listen to symphonies by anyone nearly so much as I used to. Karajan does seem to make Bruckner's transitions between segments seem inevitable and sensible, rather than big bothersome gear shifts. Hey, I like that last phrase.
      LowIQ
      - What I want to know is. . . - Chris from Lafayette 11:18:47 02/09/25 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I suspect that, at some point, you both will appreciate. . . posted by dgaapc7 on February 08, 2025 at 15:07:12
        
        . . . why do college bands play those six notes from Bruckner's Fifth (over and over) during football games (in between plays - along with Carmina Burana, the Verdi Requiem's Dies Irae, etc.)? Some contemporary artist must have "borrowed" them and made them popular! ;-)

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