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In Reply to: RE: Yes posted by Batman on November 15, 2024 at 07:42:40
...I can't hear high frequencies, so how will a hearing aid enable me to hear them again?
And I'm fine with normal conversation, it's loud sounds that actually hurt my ears.
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comprehension. I was basically scolded for not wearing my hearing aids full time, and was told I won't recover what has been lost. However, being careful to use the aids full time from now on would greatly slow down or stop further loss of comprehension. Previously, I had to sit or stand right in front of the person talking in order to understand what they were saying.
I was not wearing my hearing aids while working outside for fear that I would lose those tiny objects. I was also not wearing them as soon as I got up in the morning. Some days I simply forgot to use them.
The one disappointment with hearing aids is that all the ones I researched were limited to a maximum of 8000Hz for adjustments. Twenty years ago, I discovered that I could not hear frequencies somewhere between 10KHz and 12KHz. I would like those and higher frequencies back, but . . .
I am sure that I have lost frequencies even lower than that since then.
Costco also told me that I needed to return once a year to have adjustments. I agree, as the losses I discovered yesterday were the result of no adjustments for 4 years!
...if my ears lost high frequencies due to nerve damage, how will hearing aids undo the nerve damage? Even if the hearing aids boost high frequencies, how will that help if my ears are incapable of hearing those frequencies?
And I don't need sounds to be louder. I can hear better when there's less noise. When I'm out on my bicycle and I come to a road crossing, I can easily hear approaching traffic, for example. I'm not just hearing engines either, I can hear tires on pavement and the car disturbing the air it's moving through.
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a person will never recover those frequencies. The hearing tests show the frequencies that are barely heard and amplifies those in the hearing aid just like an audio equalizer. Hearing research has also shown that the brain will forever lose frequencies if those frequencies have not been processed in a long time. So boosting those frequencies with a hearing aid will not help.
I Question how continuous amplification will prevent process degradation. admittedly, I am not a professional working in the field, but a real medical hearing test is not a "do you hear this" yes or no deal.
the fact that the mind will report sounds that are not there as reality must be incorporated into the hearing assessment. that is why hearing test are correctly structured to identify a range considered normal or not, to account for the phantom reports of sounds heard that were not generated. there are no objectively accurate tests, like you identified 98 out of 100 test tones. heading tests can only be subjective.
not to knock the undoubtably useful service Costco provides, just trying to hopefully provide some interesting food for thought , that most audiophiles should be acquainted with. I'm sure the info would save more than a fe people from buying very expensive equipment or wires, because of what someone thought they heard.
of course, the interesting part is that what one thinks they heard is their only reality, what you think is heard becomes one's reality . much the same as the first impression of an optical illusion.
hearing is completely a process of the mind, what your brain chooses to tell you about sound is your only reality , and the process is completely subjective, as the brain has no ability for self awareness , it's only accuracy is what it thinks
This report may or may not mirror reality even if it did, how would one know, your reality is dependent on whatever the brain decides it might be. if one thinks it sounds good, that is your personal reality. Same with if you decide you are missing information that will effect your sonic happiness. You can tell a little kid their suitcase player sucks, but he won't care, because of the subjectivity of human hearing
Imagine that the response curve of your ear has become rolled off. A hearing aid is exactly like an equalizer with multiple channels. The audiologist will adjust the output of the various channels to match the inverse of your frequency response curve....boosting the high frequencies and attenuating some lower ones. As Beach Cruiser points out, your brain knows ow to process this new information. You'll be amazed!
Dang.
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That whatever hearing aid you select is compatible with your phone's Bluetooth. I had to get a new phone.
And BTW despite their claims, hearing aids don't really help with restaurant noise :-(
of yours concerning restaurant background noise. The Costco technician showed me the noise cancellation capabilities of my hearing aids, and it was very effective. Costco is noisy, but the noise was gone when the tech pushed a button on my hearing aid. The tech's voice was very clear with all that noise gone.
Hey- you can get a huge pumpkin pie for $5.99! Can't beat that anywhere.
I live in Bend, OR. Try finding a quiet restaurant in this town. Few restaurants have carpets or acoustical tiles and at times, it impossible for me, at least to hear what the other person is saying. To me, it feels like the whole place is vibrating. It seems the new standard is all hard surfaces. Makes cleaning up easier. And apparently some of the younger people like noisy places.
Why some of those place have to crank the music so loud is beyond me, and I noticed it long before my ears retired.
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Even without the music, the din of voices alone makes hearing difficult. Unless of course you're already deaf and can read lips.
...it's still too damned loud.
Here's the weird part...I have a hard time with high frequencies and can't always hear the sibilant part of an "S."
Mrs. Ghost wears a partial, and has a difficult time annunciating the "S" sound.
At least we didn't screw up two marriages.
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