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In Reply to: RE: you pontificate too much posted by JURB on October 27, 2020 at 02:57:18

in the specific case of the less bulky EC's, they would not be laying on the floor. They would be tilted down with leads ripped out of the cap and sometimes even completely with caps bouncing around within.

I've seen both possibilities when not secured properly or the glue used in older equipment has dried up and become useless for the intended purpose. New equipment has a better chance of survival but the shippers have become even more brutal in handling of the packages today and that's why many people now fear to ship any equipment and go thru possible insurance claims.

In case anyone else is reading this for edification, I used to own a business and received packages every day. I also shipped out of the business and spoke many times to the drivers about the shipping conditions of any package from any shipper - they said, and I quote, "we beat every package especially the heavy ones"

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RE: you pontificate too much - JURB 07:19:22 10/28/20 (0)
"in the specific case of the less bulky EC's, they would not be laying on the floor"

That was an exaggeration. I do that from time to time.

"the shippers have become even more brutal in handling of the packages today and that's why many people now fear to ship any equipment and go thru possible insurance claims."

I found UPS to be fairly easy to deal with. I sent a projection CRT up to Michigan. I built the container, not the box itself but a wood frame inside for support and plenty of padding. Still they managed to break it.

Being bot members of a professional trade site I only charged him fifty bucks but the default is a hundred for insurance. I proved what it was worth and they gave me the hundred. So I had his fifty, and the hundred and split is with him, so he got more money back than he paid. However the loss put the kabash on a three hundred buck job.

I fixed a vertical TT for a guy a state away, the shippig was three hundred round trip AND THEY BROKE IT. And it was in a way a claim would be near impossible, so I just fixed the damages and met him at the state line.

Being still in the business, I still won't encourage people to ship me anything except amps. Anything mechanical don't bother, there has to be some one local enough. Well unless they live in Bulltit, Iowa.

Still the shipping isn't worth the risk.

In no way do I dispute what you say about shipping. And even saving the original box etc. is not really all that great, the Styrofoam doesn't really give. My preferred method is carpet padding. That will actually reduce the G force by handling significantly.

This all brings back an old luggage ad on TV. It showed a gorilla throwing a suitcase around, on the floor, walls whatever. One of those things that seem pretty accurate now.

I did say something about getting audio couriers dedicated to shipping audio units. I am pretty good at figuring things out but this one I come up short.

One possibility might be those car transport companies, the kind that when someone wants their car taken to their new house in a different state they get someone who wanted to go there anyway and after verifying the license and all that, getting the insurance right they drive the car there.

Shipping really is the biggest PITA in this.
Fragile means throw with care . . . I once worked for an airline - alaskahiatt 01:10:06 10/28/20 (2)
as a baggage boy( ramp agent nowadays), and I delivered a cart of mail to the airport post office. One of the mail pieces was obviously a large painting. The postal boy(agent) grabbed the painting package and threw it about 15 feet onto the asphalt. The package bounced back and forth a couple times before settling down, and I have wrapped all my packages appropriately since then. Packages have to survive being thrown or dropped.
- RE: Fragile means throw with care . . . I once worked for an airline - Eli Duttman 19:25:14 10/28/20 (1)
  That's when people are being polite. Far too often, fragile is interpreted as please, "Gorilla Stomp" me. :> ((
  
  Eli D.
  - RE: Fragile means throw with care . . . I once worked for an airline - mcgjohn@yahoo.com 03:58:42 11/03/20 (0)
    That is the infamous sansui glue. It was used to hold larger components in place as the PCB went through wave solder. had nothing to do with shipping.
    
    if and when you recap the amp, you will want to remove that glue. it takes some time and you must be careful, since being too aggressive will damage the silk screen on the board.
    
    if the glue is not removed, it becomes conductive over time. Its also corrosive so will chew through any component leads it has come in contact with.

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