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Something not commercially available only for educated listeners = placebo :)

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13th Duke of Wymbourne

In Reply to: RE: Placebo? posted by hahax@verizon.net on August 09, 2024 at 20:54:01

It is only us hoi polloi that see a naked king.

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Us hoi poloi see a naked king? You're joking right? - Geoffkait 13:57:30 08/15/24 (0)
What you, the hoi poloi believe is often because of conditioning.
RE: Something not commercially available only for educated listeners = placebo :) - hahax@verizon.net 20:44:45 08/14/24 (5)
Sorry it works. It was offered to many companies who made super CDs and they all turned it down although they heard the difference and it would have cost pennies. A few of the developer's friends know and use it. But the inventor's widow is so hurt by his mistreatment she asked us not to reveal it. So I don't.

In this case you can't try it unless I meet you and demo it which I can't do. But don't slough off stuff as placebos without at least trying them. I've made the mistake. For on I doubted vibration isolation for electronics and when I finally did try it under my CD drive(Pioneer DVD player into a separate DAC) it was as if I just spent thousands instead of hundreds and it was just the drive.
- RE: Something not commercially available only for educated listeners = placebo :) - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 16:24:25 08/15/24 (4)
  I was being a bit facetious. When I read it was appreciated by educated listeners that raised a flag and then it wasn't available to the general public that raised the flag a bit more that this could appeal to those susceptible to the King's new clothes effect.
  
  Obviously, I haven't heard it so take my comments in that context. I am interested in CD transport tweaks as they should be objectively provable: they must either allow the transport to read data correctly where it was incorrect before, they the lower jitter of the recovered data or they allow the transport servos to track more easily and so draw less current that might couple noise into the analog domain. If you're using a separate transport that pretty much rules out the last one, I think the effects of jitter are way overblown and who knows whether the data off the disc in real time is truly correct (though that must be provable). My inner engineer thinks that if you perceived an issue with reading CDs and invented a solution (pun intended) to fix that issue that you would also do something to prove it had worked rather than just say it does! And wouldn't proof help sales? But that never happens :(
  
  And, or course, it's always good to bait Geoff Kait. Hey - that should be a t-shirt!
  - Oh, geez, more pseudo scientific blather. Is there no end to it? Nt - Geoffkait 04:41:22 08/16/24 (2)
    Nt
    - Now I am pseudo scientific as well as a pseudo sceptic! Maybe if I had appealed I'd have an Olympic bronze too? (nt - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 12:16:55 08/16/24 (1)
      BGK
      - I'm pretty sure you forgot pseudo intellectual. Nt - Geoffkait 13:35:42 08/16/24 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Now I am pseudo scientific as well as a pseudo sceptic! Maybe if I had appealed I'd have an Olympic bronze too? (nt posted by 13th Duke of Wymbourne on August 16, 2024 at 12:16:55
        
        Nt
  - hey, I'll take one T-Shirt. Does it come in purple? /nt - Story 16:46:42 08/15/24 (0)
RE: Something not commercially available only for educated listeners = placebo :) - Geoffkait 17:04:32 08/12/24 (0)
None so blind that will not see.

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