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Black Gates were ok. Not to the level they were hyped.

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Chip647

In Reply to: RE: Black Gate and Kaisei, a look back and future possibilities: pt 2 posted by KAIBER on January 23, 2024 at 06:45:22

DC Link non-electrolytic caps are better and will not fail sitting on the shelf.

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RE: Black Gates were (only) ok?!!! & Audio Note - Barry 12:50:36 01/23/24 (6)
I used Black Gates in several mods I've done and really miss them. Nothing I've used since, including the Kaisei caps, sounded as good in the signal path. I've even got an amplifier power supply with 160,000uF FKs. I've never had any go bad sitting on the shelf either.

If anyone's got suggestions for a good electrolytic let me know (I haven't tried the Mundorfs).

I really appreciate that Audio Note tries to innovate parts manufacture. I don't care for the Kaisei's (oily sounding), but I really like their standard Niobium resistors. They're a little more natural sounding than Z-foils which can be a little lean and even hard sounding if you use too many.
- RE: Black Gates were (only) ok?!!! & Audio Note - KanedaK 23:25:28 01/26/24 (0)
  I like the Silmic II, but they do take a while to break in, during which they sound slow and dull.
- What values are you looking for? UF and Voltage (nt) - Chip647 17:15:25 01/23/24 (4)
  - RE: What values are you looking for? UF and Voltage (nt) - Barry 18:31:25 01/23/24 (3)
    Anything in the neighborhood of 220uF and 25-35 Volt for my Pass Labs XVR-1-3way in signal path with volume pot
    
    Edits: 01/23/24
    - How many are directly in the signal path? (nt) - Chip647 06:53:23 01/24/24 (2)
      - RE: How many are directly in the signal path? (nt) - Barry 16:52:36 01/25/24 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: How many are directly in the signal path? (nt) posted by Chip647 on January 24, 2024 at 06:53:23
        
        One per channel on the subwoofer L&R Low pass filters in front of the volume control. I ran out of Black Gates to use.
        
        I've tried Silmic IIs, Nichicon's, and Cerafines. The originals were Panasonics.
        
        As you can see, this 3-way crossover's had several dozens of parts changes of resistors, caps and PS supply changes. Color me certifiable, but it sounds quite good.
        
        RE: How many are directly in the signal path? (nt) - Chip647 12:06:46 01/27/24 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: How many are directly in the signal path? (nt) posted by Barry on January 25, 2024 at 16:52:36
        
        It looks pretty dense in there with all your mods. There are film caps that you could use, but they are probably a bit too large to fit into the available real estate.
RE: Black Gates were ok. Not to the level they were hyped. - Palustris 08:50:12 01/23/24 (0)
"DC Link non-electrolytic caps are better and will not fail sitting on the shelf."

That says it all.

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