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After a week - it just gets better

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rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com

In Reply to: RE: Get off the grid.......Use an inverter posted by Ric Schultz on August 02, 2022 at 12:31:05

Either this thing needs to settle in like any other electronic component or as John Broskie says WE get settled in to the new device - I do think there is some of both.

After a week nothing untoward has made itself known - if anything I keep having those "I did not realize they did that" kind of things when a musical flourish is more clearly delineated.

Sure it is a pain in some ways dealing with batteries - must be like those that owned classic era Bugattis and removed the oil from the crankcase to heat it on the stove before returning the hot oil into the crankcase to start the engine.

I still cannot imagine what can happen with the elaborate grounding scheme. Luckily if I go ahead and have the rod installed it will be just outside my listening room which would make a huge gauge wire unnecessary since the length will be much shorter than Mr. Schultz's friend's system.

I know one never knows until one hears something for themselves but I am having a hard time figuring out what would happen in my system. Would I ground the amplifier heatsinks to the rod? Do you use the ground wire from the smaller components to attach to the wire to the rod or a literal attachment to the chassis of each device?

I need to read more about this.

I have nothing but gratitude for this being made known to me. I thought my AC power was plenty good. I cannot image what this could do for folks in urban areas.

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I think with four low power class a ampsI need 600 Ah - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 08:30:33 08/29/22 (0)
The constant draw can be worked with but there would be a little more breathing room with another battery - Another two would be better still but I do not know where I would put them.

My system draws an almost constant 640 watts with blips of 680 watts per the inverter's meter.

Looks like this is a one man thread. Sorry. Hoping someone is interested.
The fan came on - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 07:07:33 08/24/22 (0)
While doing tweaking with the DSP box I use the charger.

The meter shows 640 watts usage when the system is playing music.

When i am making measurements I use only the amplifier needed with the charger connected - so this would be 190 watts usage.

So I discover there is not only power that brings on the fan there is also heat. My room is 81 degrees F and I guess the heat build up was more than the inverter thought was safe. The fan came on when the charger was disconnected and the system was playing music drawing 640 watts.

I am thinking I will install a NOCTUA fan and leave it running at all times.

The fan is noisy - not ridiculously noisy - but heat is bad - I like the idea of a constant breeze for the inverter.

I have yet to find a chance to check ground continuity between the receptacles and the lugs.

I am thinking - and will have to try - that the ground wire only needs to be connected when the charger is connected to the inverter.

My amps have no casing so I have no idea what I would ground to the ground rod. The heatsinks? All of the rest of the stuff is minimal power draw.

Are you connecting the case to this ground wire or the ground wire in the power cord?

I will read what you have written about grounding.
More stuff on grounding. - Ric Schultz 17:07:59 08/22/22 (1)
Added some info at the bottom of my page earlier today. You can have your grounding rod horizontal.....my friend just has his 3 feet deep......However, if you use Ground Enhancement Material (cement that is conductive)....you can just dig a 6 inch deep trench, 4-6 inches wide....and a little over 8 feet long.....Please read my page and do some searches on ground rods and GEM. I have a link to the 4 gauge wire he used.....only $1.85 a foot. Go for it!
Glad you are enjoying the Inverter system.......The ground rod tweak is cheap.....and worthy......then you will LONG for the Puritan 156.......you won't be able to resist......he he. I believe the Puritan can be bought with money back gaurantee. Read the reviews.....most everyone loves it.

Edits: 08/22/22
- Re: Puritan - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 12:53:04 08/24/22 (0)
  I do not use plugs.
  
  It would cost me a fortune over and above the cost of the PURITAN to buy power connectors to use it.
  
  If I took it apart to try it out I doubt they would give me my money back.
  
  I see that 6moons liked it but that is about it. I do not see it listed in his ancillary components so he must not have loved it that much. Plus the DC blocking aspect, I would think, is not needed here. I tend to agree a filter is needed though I do not hear the need for it YET but that one is probably overkill for those who do not have thousands of dollars to throw at the system. I am a DIYer by necessity.
  
  I will continue with my plan to use the Fo-Felix filter at the power input of each device at a fraction of the cost. Filters should ideally be at the power input of the device instead of before a long power cord. No different than you would not place a loudspeaker filter at the amplifier and have it drive the speaker cable.
  
  There is more than one way to skin the cat. Convenience is always expensive.

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