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RE: Thank you: Oyaide R1 outlets in UPC-200

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In Reply to: RE: Thank you: Oyaide R1 outlets in UPC-200 posted by rex_diplodicus on June 14, 2007 at 18:11:16

I had visitors earlier and couldn't finish the post. I should have also mentioned a possible difficulty when connecting the wires to the R1.

As you loosen the terminal screws on the R1 look through the wire holes and watch the internal clamp. Do this for the hot terminal first (see why below) and loosen the screw just to the point where the clamp clears the holes. If the screw comes all the way out it's a real pain to get it back in without cross threading.

The neutral terminal is more of a problem. The clamp will not completely clear the holes unless the screw is removed. I don't think this is just a one-off, since all five of my R1s had this problem. This isn't a problem with solid core wire, but the upc has stranded and it is a bit difficult to insert the wires. Here's what worked for me. Loosen the neutral screw about the same as the hot screw so as not to remove it; this should give enough clearance. Attach the neutral wires first. Then attach the ground. The ground wire has a ring terminal end so you'll need to remove the ground screw (it goes back in easily). Finally attach the hot wires.

One more thing. When twisting the strands into a bundle, twist just enough so that the wire is stiff enough to insert (with no loose strands). Twisting more will increase the diameter and make it harder to insert.

Hope this helps.

Jerry

Follow Ups:

All Oyaide outlets can be disassembled........... - kenster 23:50:51 06/14/07 (3)
"If the screw comes all the way out it's a real pain to get it back in without cross threading."

Had this very thing happen on an R1 and if the screw does seperate from the clamp, one can remove the back strap from the outlet, seperate the 2 halves of the outlet body and this then gives access to the screws/clamps which can be reassembled and then just reverse order to reassemble the outlet.

Keep in mind that the backstrap has a VERY snug fit around the 2 halves and one needs to draw back on either the top or the bottom of the strap to release it from the outlet molding depressions.

Cheers,

~kenster
- RE: All Oyaide outlets can be disassembled........... - JerryD6 07:08:58 06/15/07 (2)
  Thanks kenster, that's good to know. There is a rivet (or so it appears) on the back which I assumed held the backstrap to the body, obviously not.
  
  Three of my R1s came with screws loose in the box. I got them back in, but managed to cross thread one. I put two metal skewers (for trussing birds) in the wire holes to hold the clamp against the screw hole and was able to get the screw threaded properly again. However it's nice to know you can repair/replace an internal part and not the whole outlet.
  
  Regards,
  Jerry
  - RE: All Oyaide outlets can be disassembled........... - kenster 16:46:07 06/15/07 (1)
    "There is a rivet (or so it appears) on the back which I assumed held the backstrap to the body, obviously not."
    
    All my Oyaides have a small Phillips screw securing the backstrap which screws into an elongated nut/standoff which holds the 2 halves together and also provides the screw hole for the outlet cover.
    
    Funny, I also managed to get a clamp screw cross threaded as well but after disassembling the outlet, I put the clamp in a vise and was then able to get the clamp screw in straight :-)
    
    Cheers
    - Thanks JerryD6 & kenster & duster - rex_diplodicus 06:21:15 07/17/07 (0)
      Thanks Guys for your informative posts. They were a great help!
      
      I received the R1 yesterday and was able to install it in my UPC-200 as per Jerry's instructions and managed to resolve a cross threading problem by taking the outlet apart as per kenster's posts. Next step would be to replace the inlet on the UPC-200 as per Duster's earlier post.
      
      Overall, I'll let my system burn in for a while before making an ultimate decision but initially it does seem that the R1 has all of the positive characteriscs that others have already noted on the Asylum!

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