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I have a conundrum. I have an Audiolab 8000 T tuner and also a Pioneer Elite F 91 tuner, both purchased brand new. I'm considering selling one of them. I only want one.They both have great soundstaging and have been really reliable. I know the Audiolab 8000 T had some reliability issues but I guess I've had one of the better ones. Even after 20 + years of almost regular use,it's still problem-free.
I know the Pioneer Elite F91 tuner was Pioneers desire to get into a higher and market. I paid about $600 for this I believe back in 1988.
But for me, both great turners.
What are some of your thoughts?
Thanks
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You have -2- outstanding tuners. You have taken great care of them. You know their history. They each have their strong points. For the money that you would get selling either, you would never be able to replace them. I would keep both.
Thank you!
After giving it some thought and consideration, I will keep both. No sense in selling either one.
I can just simply swap out one for the other now and then.
Were it me I'd keep both.
Given the Audiolab's known issues.
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Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
Aesthetics are very different. So they sound roughly the same? There must be some difference.
The Audiolab excels at soundstaging while the Pioneer tuner pulls in stations better.
They are both great tuners. I still have to decide which one I'm going to sell.
this is a VERY good thing.
Keep them both.
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Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
what is the broadcast landscape?-
If the Pioneer can pull in station better - and you are on the edge of the broadcast range for some of your favorite stations - then that is the one to keep-
On the other hand - if you are in a rich broadcast landscape - Keep the AudioLab for the better sound stage...
Happy Listening
I live in Tucson, Arizona and we are surrounded by the Catalina Mountains.
This frequently blocks signals.
Leaving aside atmospherics which will be NOISY.
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Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
A little bit hard to move the mountains out of the way! Ha.
Of course I could move, but I like my house.
Eg? A directional antenna with serious gain and a rotator?
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Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
Embarrassed to say,but it's just an old ribbon antenna. I haven't had time to buy a good antenna yet as I'm still making improvements on the system. I do things slowly based on my energy level.
I'm 69 as of last Monday, and needed to cut down on outside volunteering.Flat-out gardening in a drought, down here in Aussie. Still have four (of 11) veggie beds to empty / fill
How open is your loft area? Do you have access to the plans and any upright beams between ceiling and roofing. ? What insulation is there in the loft? ???? I'll explain later, or you could search here on Rhombic, posted by me.
When you've got time I suggest a visit to FM Fool * and a bit of
scanner-printer work, and a copied map with NTH arrow, that you can mark your place and the sites of the DESIRED FM stations onto.Then you use a clear plastic school-kids' compass to mark in their bearings.
Only then will you know how wide an arc they all constitute. Then get a handle on each one's transmitter power, see FM FOOL*.
The one with the least / furthest will help us decide on how much GAIN the 'tenna needs to have. (*?)
NB I'd counsel that you only stick to the stations you REALLY want. And, ... this choosing might be possible IF they are also on-line so you can listen and decide!
I am VERY fortunate that I'm only interested in two stations.
https://www.abc.net.au/classic/listen-live/player/
https://artsound.fm/programs/show-schedule/ and you click on listen on-line.
The on-line sound is data reduced digital and NOT as good as analogue FM with my antenna.
My antenna is pointed at the first one which is a very strong station, and the other's repeater is ~ 0.5 miles behind and to the East, not at all strong but both are 'fully quiet.'
The top one is for FM, t'other is for DTV.
I've never overloaded an FM rcvr with that thing, and we have three FM stereo stages in the house.
ONE is a tubed front-end, and needs to be driven HARD.
Enough for now.
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
Edits: 11/28/19 11/28/19 11/28/19
Hi Tim, thanks for your thorough and excellent post.
I'll be 68 in January. My lack of energy comes from leukemia. My hemoglobin levels are slightly low and that causes fatigue so any type of project I take on can take time to finish.
Despite that, I remain active probably out of stubbornness and no desire to sit!
As far as antennas, I'm limited to what I can do because of the limited space in the attic.
I also live in a managed neighborhood which means we have rules and regulations of what we can and cannot do to the property. Right now I can pull in the stations I like to listen to although they come in a little bit weak. I'm going to check with the management company to see what I'm allowed to do as far as mounting outdoor antennas.
Kinda depends on the directions and the extent of arc of stations.
I do not have leukemia, but I do have a few health issues, mostly blood-pressure, IBSyndrome, and a stressful year.
Getting better on the latter front.
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
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