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I wanted to share with the rest of the forum about this antenna I had recently bought. It's a high performance antenna in the same league as the Winegard 6065.
I purchased this from Denny's TV Antenna and I'm glad I did. The Stellar Labs yagi was doing a good job but I was hearing hiss in the background on a lot of stations specially the one I have been having issues for a long time getting without noise. The City college station was the one, some days quiet some days not so quiet. After I connected the FM 2500 FM Antenna today, that station is now dead quiet and signal strength is way better.
My Fisher KM-60 sounds awesome now and I'm set now for my Tube Tuner! I did do an upgrade last night on the output caps that I changed to Jensen Copper Foil PIO and some Takman resistors in the audio stage. This upgrade opened up the soundstage even more with more depth.
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This brings back good memories.
If you are going to throw up a good directional array, then you should do it all the way, and slap a rotator on it.
Years ago, for FM OTA, we would run shielded 300 ohm from the array terminals non-stop to the receiver. No balun losses and a clean protected capture. That's the best arrangement, but impossible today. Next best would be an RG-11 drop, or if RG-6, make sure it's QS.
Best thing to keep that signal strong for more than a couple seasons is to glob the array pickups down heavily with dielectric grease to seal out the moisture. Same with any arrestor and any other exterior splices. Grease -- never caulks or tapes. The latter always eventually lets some precipitation in, and there it will stay. But if you want to tape over a grease-filled barrel connection, that is passable. 3M still makes an excellent self-fusing tape for this application.
Still, with the commercial OTA we now have around here in most of the US, you are often preparing the finest of china and tableware to dine on Golden Corral.
Depends on how many desired stations, you have in mind.
I've only two of those, one of them has a repeater on a large hill just ESE of us.
https://artsound.fm/
The other national broadcaster's powerful transmitter is on another large hill NNE and that's what our 7 element is pointed at.
https://www.abc.net.au/classic/featured-music/recently-played/
That hill has most of Canberra's FM transmitters on it, as well.
You can listen on line to both, give them a try.
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
But, it isn't really a long boom multi-element FM band only, antenna.
Good FM band II antennas do exist, but sadly it seems, not many, if any, in the USA.
America's consumers have seen to that.
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
Just came across this -.Lots of unresolved complaints filed against Denny's: https://www.bbb.org/us/mi/ithaca/profile/antenna/dennys-antenna-service-0372-17005647/complaints
I guess you were lucky if you had a good experience with them.
"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do."
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After weeks of messing with this antenna I file a complaint with Paypal. I gave them all the info as to the reason/s why I wanted a refund. They made it really hard for me and so I will never buy anything from that Denny again.
The Antenna worked fine on local stations on some stations but what turned out later was that 2500HD could barely pick up any stations farther than 20-25 miles and seemed to have no real directivity to it when point to a station's antenna the front to back scanning was really weird and it really never lost the signal to the point of me knowing it was working properly not like the Stellar Labs did.
I put the Stellar Labs back up and it was performing way better consistently over that 2500 HD. It had the selectivity and directivity when point towards a station and you could tell it was working correct when you would point the antenna away you would loss the station and pick up other stations from the other direction USA/Mexico. This is what the 2500HD couldn't do.
I was picking up Long Beach consistently Stellar Labs which the 2500 HD only did a couple of times.
So I have the Stellar Labs back up and have been very happy since. I know I had a big learning curve to FM antennas and how they work and all the other stuff like the Atmosphere and Temperatures how it plays a BIG part in long distance station reception like in my case with Long Beach.
MD's whips are pleasure-boat antennas which work about as well as any other boat antenna which sell for less $$$. But that MD labelling is worth it?Another chap sells one with just a few elements and calls it a DX antenna! This forum gets lots of questions about reception which reflect little knowledge of their own antenna and reception requirements.
Also?, MD markets its tuners with a single valve for audio out only, as 'valve tuners'.
IME the most important part of a real valve tuner is its front end and IF strip. The MPX stages can often be improved upon, and the output stage, too.
But, they are very hard to overload with in-band signals, and some can reject out-of-band signals extremely well!
BBBrains indeed.
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
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So, how does this compare to the old Antennacraft FM-6? Radioshack used to sell it and it was great. I used one for many years until it was destroyed by birds roosting on it. Wish I could find another.
Ciao
for DIY antennas. Just to the right of the page it has info for the FM Band.
Edits: 12/02/18
Some kind of big ol' Yagi or log periodic or suchlike, I take it.
Is it a 'modern' replacement for the venerable APS-13 (or whatever)?
Who makes it?
Does they gots a website?
Inquiring minds want to know!
:)
all the best,
mrh
So, it's a bit of a compromise.
I'd expect a decent FM6 to beat it, on FM.
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
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Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
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all the best,
mrh
Nor is this 7-element item.But it will do. I have 3 FM rcvrs running, and will soon add a 4th!
One of the existing ones has a valve front end and needs a a fair bit of drive.
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
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"One of the existing ones has a valve front end and needs a a fair bit of drive."
If sensitivity alone is the issue, a GaAsFET preamp will probably resolve it. I'm sure you know that. :)
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signal from close by.On ABC Classic FM's high power signal, from the big tower in town at which the antenna is aimed, it crosses. The distance is ~ 12Km aka 7.5 miles. ABC Classic FM's city stations are required to be very powerful.
Adding an extra SS FM stage to the antenna system and a few feet of coax isn't likely to knock that down much, if at all.
And, I rarely run all the FM stages all at once. We tend to turn things off.
The extra FM outlet - in the study - will let me compare the SQ of ABC Classic FM's on-line signal to their FM transmissions, on a decent enough setup, and on ATH AD-1000X headphones.
The sound card we have in the desktop is a Realtek HD Audio item with 192k /24 DAC and ADC.
Our bedroom Denon DR555 stereo rcvr will drive the restored Magnats, and play FM through them.
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
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Glad you mentioned this. I haven't looked at antennas in a long time, didn't realize most FM-dedicated yagis had disappeared from the market. Which Stellar Labs were you using? I see Newark sells their 4-element FM yagi for about $30. That's probably as much gain and directionality as most people need. Maybe I'll buy a couple and put them away for a rainy day.
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MCM/Newark. Don't get me wrong, it's a good Antenna but where I live (in lower area) I need more gain or higth. If I were on a hill the 4 element yagi would be good enough for me. The FM 2500HD works great for me. I was pulling in stations up to 121 miles with it, maybe not in stereo but in mono and some were noise free in mono and others I could barely get and were noisy.I'm going to see how high up I can go on my antenna without having to do too much drilling and support/s. I have a feeling if I can go up another 10' (about 8' right now) I will be able to get more stations with little or no noise from those long distances. Right now, I'm good with all the stations in my area I listen to coming in noise free, strong, and in stereo. The other distant stations are icing on the cake.
Edits: 11/25/18
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