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In Reply to: RE: I was looking at the TC-772 model... posted by kootenay on December 23, 2019 at 10:36:25
...the TC-770 is not really a machine that you should use much. It is fairly complicated and hard to fix, parts hard to get.I intend to use mine just as a collectible display item, to spin every now and then. I think it is significant from the standpoint of tape decks development.
Your PR99, on the other hand, is something you can definitely use. The only real problem I see with it - is its NAB EQ. I much prefer the IEC. So I have a pristine PR99 MkII, but rarely use it.
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Ok...I see. I was looking at the Nagra and Lyric portable recorders as well but they are above my pay grade.Speaking of which, I used to have the Otari and was lucky enough that I was able to compare the NAB and IEC EQ both on my Otari and Revox. I find that the EIC EQ was tilted towards the middle range frequencies more so than the NAB which was by-the-way was excellent for ensemble music such as jazz and classical. However, when it comes to folk, classic rock, and orchestral music I find that the NAB EQ was more balanced and has a more visceral presence. Of course, it's all about personal preference after all.
Anyway, the tech who calibrated my PR99 MKII was able to balance it between the NAB and IEC EQ during the calibration process of which I thought he did an excellent job as the midrange is more pronounced
than before.
If a thing's worth doing, it's worth doing well
(Proverb)
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Lyrec is a touch machine, from what I know, and it is far more modern, if you consider something like Frida... but it is also expensive to maintain in the US, as far as I know. It is a sexy machine, and it is on the short list of models for me to acquire. Maybe some day... they don't pop op here all that often.I calibrate my machines myself, it is not that hard to do. Here's the result of one such recent calibration - on Pioneer RT-2022.
I can play either EQ, but most high quality pre-recorded tapes come in IEC.
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I don't own an oscilloscope and or calibration tape so I relied on the tech to do it for me. Perhaps I should send it to you. Ahh... never mind.
How do you like your Pioneer RT-2022? I had the Pioneer RT-999 in the late '70s and it was built like a tank and it sounded good too compared to the Dokorder that I also own at that time.
If a thing's worth doing, it's worth doing well
(Proverb)
Very well designed machine. It is also - so far - the leader in the purchased deck sound quality. It had very stiff competition here from the likes of Revox's, Studers, Otari's, Pioneer's, Teac's etc.There is a trick to it, though. As you might know it consists of two boxes - the drive unit and the control unit. Normally the output is taken from the control module, but you can actually take it from the drive unit. This way you bypass their output stage, and get better sound that way. That output stage, although discrete, still relies on electrolytic capacitors in its signal pass.
With that connection you get a bit less signal - about 14dB less to be exact - but that is usually compensatable in the preamp.
Done that way the 2022 sounds truly marvelous. Mind you, the tube head preamps will still beat it, but the margin is shrinking.
That calibration was done through the front panel controls on the 2022 - very easy to do using the Audio Precision system - you get the plots in a matter of seconds.
I have soft spot for Dokorder - I have the 1122 in excellent shape here, everything working, running at 15ips, 2-Track. Here it is, part of my office decoration. :)
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Are you kidding me? That's fascinating as you have all or most of the RTR brands that I used to own in the past. Especially the Dokorder which was very close to my heart as it was the first RTR that I bought late in the '70s from a friend who reluctantly sell it to me.
I sold them and gave some of them away including my Nakamichi cassette decks when I downsize my system. However, I kept the 3 Revoxes machines which include the PR99 MKII, A77 and the B-215 cassette deck.
Nice collections if I may say so myself...
If a thing's worth doing, it's worth doing well
(Proverb)
...we have quite a number of R2R decks.
I have always been in love with them... I built my first one at the age of about 10. It didn't really work, but I was sooooo proud! :)
Don't worry about it you're in good company. That was my grandpappy used to tell me :)
My first foray on the electronics DIY projects was when I ordered a graphic equalizer kit from Heathkit. It was simple enough to assemble but the problem was I didn't know a thing about the proper soldering procedure. After about a week of soldering and learning as I go, I was able to put the unit together. I thought I did a pretty good job as I was being frugal with the parts. I have some extra electrolytic and caps left over of which I thought that was odd. The rest was history in the sense that the darn thing almost blew up in my face when I plug it in.
Anyway, I ordered another one...lessons learned never skip reading the manual from start to finish.
If a thing's worth doing, it's worth doing well
(Proverb)
We didn't have Heathkit, and the parts were incredibly hard to find - so some came from my dad's friend, others were picked at the city dump - there were several electronic companies near us, including the now famous Svetlana, so their dump trucks always brought tons of treasures. My mother was always so happy to see me come home loaded with all that "good stuff". :)
Over the years I have built maybe a dozen tape decks. Some were silly looking and almost ugly, but they played music. Others were finished, nice looking ones, which I later sold to happy customers.
But we lack the skills to put them together and the proper toolbox to put them in.
Good on you...
If a thing's worth doing, it's worth doing well
(Proverb)
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