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RE: "Why do my Vandersteen 2Ce Sig II's sound great with jazz and horrible with orchestral music? " ...

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In Reply to: RE: "Why do my Vandersteen 2Ce Sig II's sound great with jazz and horrible with orchestral music? " ... posted by Mick Wolfe on December 22, 2024 at 08:45:32

After re-reading ... it looks like his Line Magnetic integrated makes ~25w per side.

That LM integrated could very well be pooping out on large scale music. A 100w per side seemed be the beginning of the sweet spot for Vandys based on my own experience. Initially I drove my 2Ci's with an 80w Counterpoint SA12. I ended up driving 3A Sigs with one of Mike Elliot's NP100 amps. Both amps were hybrids with tube drivers and SS output devices.

Vandys are not overly power hungry, but on large scale orchestral music they likely would be under served by only 25w.

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RE: "Why do my Vandersteen 2Ce Sig II's sound great with jazz and horrible with orchestral music? " ... - Mick Wolfe 17:20:38 12/22/24 (5)
25 watts(even tube watts) into 84db yields decent results with girl/guitar or acoustic jazz trios, but falls woefully short on large scale, complex rock or raw blues. IOW, material that requires a lot of drive to present a realistic presentation requires power. I'm not guessing here, I speak from my own experience. Two options...buy a 100 watt+ tube amp or 200 watt+ sand amp. Option #2....keep your current 25 tube amp and a buy a pair of Klipsch Cornwall's or similar.
- Hey guys... - E-Stat 11:58:03 12/24/24 (4)
  have you noticed his source?
  - RE: Hey guys... - Mick Wolfe 09:39:48 12/27/24 (3)
    I'm not familiar with streaming in general, so I'll take your word that there may be a weak link there as well. Yet I think the most noted flaw is a 25 watt amp trying drive an 84db speaker in what appears to be a large room.
    This especially if one is trying to reproduce large scale complex music.
    - Ding, ding, ding...-. - Ozzy 14:56:56 12/28/24 (1)
      ...-we have a winner!
      
      Don't worry about avoiding temptation. As you grow older, it will avoid you.
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      - Where's the ice cream truck ? (nt - peppy m. 16:47:37 01/01/25 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Ding, ding, ding...-. posted by Ozzy on December 28, 2024 at 14:56:56
        
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    - Just another - E-Stat 18:41:51 12/27/24 (0)
      digital transport and DAC.
      
      Lots of choice between that and a dCS stack.

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