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........by the magazine "Hi-Fi For Pleasure", which speaker came 1st when judged in comparison to seven live sounds?If it's any help, below the first placed speaker were 2ND SMC AS40, 3RD YAMAHA NS500, 4TH B&WDM5, 5TH MORDAUNT -SHORT PAGEANT, 6TH KJ LS35/A.
Furthermore, in a test of live versus recorded, the same model again came top of ten speakers tested by "Practical Hi-Fi & Audio" magazine.Again, below the 1st placed speaker was the QUAD ESL in 2nd, B&WDM6 in 3rd, ROGERS LS3/5A'S in 4th.
award yourself a gold star if you know the answer - anyone who Googles gets their bottom smacked and detention.
Best Regards,
Chris redmond.
Edits: 05/29/07Follow Ups:
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Would you believe it, although I said I was waiting to bid on a pair in a couple of days the auction was actually only a few hours away (didn't want anyone bidding against me....sad eh?) and I narrowly lost out.
That pair were in decent enough condition but no foam and no red 'R' emblem which I gather denotes the more sought after model.
Today I was casually browsing Ebay once more and spotted a pair in virtually unused condition, with the emblem and with the original foam, but fortunately they weren't advertised as JR149s so I managed to snap them up for only £10 more than the first pair went for.
Best Regards,
Chris redmond.
The UK reviewers used to drool over the products of one company those days.The winner could be Linn Sara or the Isobarik or even the Kan.I dont know if they still worship Linn products.Perhaps they like Musical Fidelity now.
Spica TC 50s were a budget speaker in North America. Around $450-550 new. In the UK after shipping etc, they retailed for the equivalent of $1000.00.
Yes there was a lot of bias towards British Equipment in the British audio press, but in North America, there was also bias, also based on the high cost of importing from England etc.
There are many in North America, who are very loyal to Linn and Naim etc.
I do remember the Brits loving the Yamaha NSM1000 speakers, which must have cost a fortune to import and are still in demand today.
There were some US speakers in the survey for the JRs, but they weren't memorable speakers. The speakers tested were all over the map in terms of price and quality. Maybe Jim Rogers engineered the whole thing.
What could you expect for 1977? Ship a pair of Dahlquists or Dayton Wrights over to GB?
David
Sorry if I gave the impression of a bias.I love British speakers myself.I imported a pair of Rogers LS3/5A from UK in 1977.My sis in law brought it with her as checked baggage!My present speaker is AE Evo One,another UK product.If I were a rich man,I would have bought a Linn Sondek and Quads.
Regards
The UK press did tend to go crazy over certain products. I remember in the mid to late 80s, the Rotel BX820 was the darling, before that the NAD 3020. Also the RB300 Rega tonearm, still gets rave reviews. Of these only the Rega was made in England. All these products were and remain good and good value and deserve the attention.
By the way I have a LP12/Nait II/Kan system as well as some "round earth" tube equipment, for what it is worth. Couldn't afford it in the day, so have accumulated it used. My JRs and sub are played through an ST70/Audible Illusions 3 combination.
David
Since you have read the British mags,perhaps you could tell me where that good reviewer David Praekel is.He used to write in HiFi Answers,Popular HIFi et al.I still remember an excellent review by him on Celestion SL6 speaker when it first came out.He admitted he had a dull pair for review.They even used to refer to that particular pair as the dull pair!Chris Frankland was another and Jimmy Hughes who wrote consecutively on four issues on how to set up the Linn Sondek!
Regards
Bill
I remember Frankland and Jimmy Hughes. They also had Martin Colloms and Ken Kessler among others. They were knowledgeable and frank.
David
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I remember reading about this test - For some reason the Sci-Tech library at the local university has a bunch of old British audio mags (hope they haven't thrown them out.) the JR's bass is better than you'd think - the 4 3/4" KEF B110 woofer has a huge magnet and beefy surround. It definitely outpulls the average six-inch driver. But the design is sealed and designed to be relatively flat rather than to have a hump in the mid-bass to compensate for the lack of deep bass. This means it should mate well to a good subwoofer. The speakers are quite inefficient and need the right amplifier to shine. And they are not party speakers. But they are really sweet with great imaging. Problem is they came with foam "grills" that quickly deteriorate. I think there is a company that offers replacements. Sometimes I think I can hear the bextrene and the aluminum. But overall they are extremely musical.
great in their day but bextrene cones leave much to be desired imho
for about 60% of LS 3/5a. What exactly was the test for accuracy? I cannot believe that JR 149's will reproduce low bass or even mid bass.
Probably totally subjective, how else can you explain some of the low rankings of other speakers. The complete list of 30 is on a JR149 site and do I really believe that the 149s were better than Quad 57s or Spendor BC1s etc.
In respect of low bass, it aint there. Bass extends to about 80hz or so. I recently acquired a JR 149 powered sub locally, and there is a big difference in bass with the sub. I prefer the BC1s and would trade in the 149s in seconds for Quads,but no one would make that trade.
Still they are less than 50% cost of the LS3/5as these days so in that sense represent value. I upgraded the crossovers using a schematic on Graham Hartle's site. He is an authority on 149s.
the list reminds me of Stereophile's top 100 or Absolute Sounds Top 10 products of all time. Certainly something for discussion, but of limited value.
David
mated to their LSB-1 sub (so-called). It doesn't go low (50 Hz?), is a passive adjunct but is matched nicely to the sats. Probably not as good as AB-1. The speakers reside comfortably with a 70's-80's SS system in my family's home. I really enjoy vinyl (which I collected for a long time) and esp. my Dad's favorite classical vocalists and Mozart and romantics (J. Strauss and operettas) when I visit.
If you know anything about the LSB-1 sub, I'd like some input as to the drivers. Seems to have 2 8 in drivers facing out the ends, but may not be B200, as the output is not very good. Only pics on the Yahoo site, and even Bart Yee, the expert moderator and the folks in England know very little about this sub.
The JR 149 is the answer.
David
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Best Regards,
Chris redmond.
But since most or all of the other speakers listed are British, I'd guess some offering from Tannoy.
"Music is the medicine of a troubled mind." -- Walter Haddon, 1567
"But since most or all of the other speakers listed are British, I'd guess some offering from Tannoy."
Somebody's bound to get the answer as I know there are some owners on this very Forum.
I'm going to bid on a pair in 2 days time and if I win them might be tempted to make a new crossover with better components to see if they can be made even better (keeping the originals intact obviously), but when Googling I was surprised to read how they apparently bested the Quads and LS3/5as.
Best Regards,
Chris redmond.
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