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In Reply to: RE: WELCOME BACK AUDIOPHILE36!!! posted by Cpk on July 12, 2009 at 07:41:21
Is this the same Ernest of Elf Audio fame?
Follow Ups:
Hello Sherod,Why yes this is Ernest from (E)rnest (L)ee (F)arley Audio.I haven't gone anywhere just changed the name of my company because there is another Elf Audio that sells car audio online and people had the two of us confused.Since the other Elf Audio already had a website with the same name I decided to change my company name since they already owned the domain name.
After that I decided to go in another direction as far as marketing goes and sell directly through my website without having to pay Audiogon as the middle man.Audiogon gave me great exposure in the cable industry,but 99% of all of my sales came from word of mouth so I decided I no longer needed Audiogon to sell my cables and I cancelled my account. To set the record straight I cancelled my Audiogon account,it was not suspended by Audiogon. I had hundreds of satified customers on Audiogon and earned impeccable feedback.
And as far as my old moniker of audiophile36 goes,when I changed my company name I decided to update my AA account with my new business info,but I had technical difficulties updating my account so it was easier for me to cancel that account and created a new one.
Our cables are still considered by many as some of the best sounding cables around and everything is the same except the name...WELCOME BACK???? HOW ABOUT WE NEVER LEFT!!!
Ernest,
I'm not so sure that cancelling your membership on Audiogon was such a good idea. Some of the top cable manufacturers, etc. advertize and promote their goods on Audiogon. And a great many of their sales is through positive remarks found in the chat forums in both Audiogon and the Cable Asylum. Word of mouth is a good thing, but without positive exposure, that word-of-mouth will fade away. It seems to me that the only word-of-mouth you seem to be getting on these threads is all negative. Being in the marketing business, myself, I've found that going the positive route is a surer way of generating sales.
See Ernest has been aware of the other company ELF Audio, who makes drivers, since Ernest started his cable scamming business. Ernest found it benificial to have a legitimate business with the same name. Every once and awhile he would get a stray customer from the legit business that thought the Troll was the same as the real Elf Audio....
When Ernest cable scamming business was exposed, he changed his name, his company and the look of his cables.
When people called Ernest the troll out?
The Troll named Ernest said he changed his name because there was another business with the same name?
This wasnt a problem for 5+ years, but now it is?
you explained that in your prior posts and on your website....wait, nope, I don't.
Ernest, Wirewizzard, troll, elf, tranny, whatever you are.
Your account was suspended on audiogon. I know for a fact. How about you try to re-open your audiogon as wirewizard, so you can prove that it wasnt? Or relist under your old name? You will be denied?
See Ernest was suspended from audiogon because he was scamming members. He would list an item other than his cables, that he could actually sell, because his cables werent selling. Once he received the money he would pretend to ship the item using an inadequate service that cant be traced. When the buyer didnt receive his item, Ernest would use his feedback to convince the person it must of been a USPS screw up. He would remedy the situation by offering some cash and his shitty cables. Basically he would force people to buy his asinine cables. Ernest gets to keep half of the money and the scam goes unnoticed. Until someone caught on and went public, then everyone he scammed contacted audiogon with the same story. Audiogon suspended his account.
Rudy said: "Ernest gets to keep half of the money and the scam goes unnoticed"Ernest says:That statement proves Rudy was lying about never receiving the $400 refund the entire time...how do I get to keep half of the money if I never sent you the $400 refund as you claim...that would be me getting to keep ALL of the money wouldn't it?
Now about this Audiogon thing...Rudy initiated a dispute on Audiogon on 6-11-2009...Audiogon cancelled the dispute on 6-14-01.Why would Audiogon cancel the dispute and then turn around and suspend me,also If Audiogon suspended my account because of the dispute why do I have feedback from as late as 7-1-2009...surely they would have suspended my account after the dispute was cancelled and my feedback would have had a bunch of negative complaints from customers right?
Rudy you are the one and only crazy customer I had out of hundreds and you will be politely ignored too.
My comment relating to you keeping half the money is in reference to how you kept it going for so long. The other members I am aware of, that were scammed by you, have explained their incident as receiving a partial refund and cables, the half comment was a guestimate. The fact that you took me for all my money is why the scam came to light. If you would of sent me a partial refund, by the way 400 dollars is not half so it wouldn’t apply to my statement or incident even if I did receive your mythological payment, I probably would of walked away and chalked it up as a misfortune.
My experience with you has left me in dismay. You have done what I considered to be impossible. I sent a member of audiogon, with a considerable amount of positive feedback, 861 dollars and you ripped me off. I am still scratching my head over this. I have lost all faith in the controls to prevent being scammed.
Your reference to CPK not having as much feedback as you, means nothing. Your feedback comes from selling nickel and dime items. Your like the 5 & dime store of cables. You sell sub par cables for less than a 100 dollars. In fact your cables are some of the cheapest available. Most of your customers are beginners or people on a strict budget. They don’t have the experience with cables to begin with, let alone decent cables costing a bit more. Not to mention, what kind of systems your cables are being installed in. Look at your system... this is a copy and paste from you.
"My current reference speakers are modified Fostex Fe167e drivers in a TQWP enclosure"
And I have seen the level of your electronics in your ads.
Your customers see your false claims of gold and silver at such a low cost, and pull the trigger thinking what’s to loose? If they are better than my Monster or generic cables, I made an improvement with little cost. If they are not, I only risked 80 bucks or so. So they take a chance. When they install your cables they probably convince themselves there is an improvement. All your feedback and positive reviews are based on how inexpensive your cables are. Anyone can go out there and find a gauge, metal and jacket that performs ok...Twist it up in their mothers basement (you did let everyone know you still live at home right?) with a drill and sell them for cheap on audiogon. You can convince anyone that they sound good. Its a 50/50 chance. Hitler convinced people of all kinds of things.
You made the same comment about my feedback, CPK and I could start selling nick knacks on audiogon too and rack up a bunch of positive feedback. What is the point, its not worth our time, I make more money at my job. This type of feedback doesn’t mean sh-t, and your a prime example of that. A guy sells a bunch of CDs and Vinyl. He acquires a bunch of positive feedback. Then he lists a 10,000 dollar turntable….are you comfortable sending this guy 10,000 dollars across country for a SPJ La Luce? (do you know what that is?) I don’t think so.
I tried your Gold Super helix (or whatever you call them) You are using the same gauge and wire for speakers cables and interconnects. The cable absolutely sucked as speaker cables. I am using low powered 45 push pulls for a whopping 3 watts, in theory this gauge cable should work well, it did not. I am being honest, may my dog be hit by a car if I am lying, in this application the cables sounded slow, veiled and muddy. They lacked dynamics, my soundstage was compressed and homogenized. They did not last very long at all. Now as interconnects, they were not bad. They were not great, but they were acceptable for the price you usually sell them for. Not the 861 dollars I paid for them.
CPK is selling power cables in the 500 to 700 dollar range. Based on his posts and literature, I am convinced they are probably pretty good. Since my incident with you, I have taken a step back, but I will try his power cables in the future thats a promise.
I apologize again for stealing this thread, but this guy needs to go away for good.
Wow guess what...here is a feedback from a satisfied customer who thought my Super Helix Golds smoked his Analysis Plus Oval 9's without any break in...certainly the Oval 9's aren't nickle and dime cables are they?
Bought SHG speaker cables from Earnest, and upon first hookup, I was shocked!! Dang these sound great! Not even broken in, they smoke my Oval 9's I just switched out. Super transparent & clean, and huge soundstage! Well built also!! AAA+
Positive by Buyer Telescope_trade (450) on 11-19-08
Anyone can go view my feedback on Audiogon and read plenty more testimonials of how good my cables are...that way Rudy or CPK can't say I modified anything.
Rudy face it you are just a customer with a grudge and you need to let it go...everybody but you thinks my cables are spectacular.
The original transaction started when Rudy bought a pair of Au24 speaker cables from me which he claims he never received even though the USPS Delivery Confirmation number claims he received the package.Rudy later demanded a full refund and I would not give it to him because the package was delivered.Rudy sent several crazy emails to me stating he would post on Audiogon and the AudioAsylum to destroy my business if I didn't give him a full refund and I told him to go ahead do what you had to do. After Rudy saw I was firm in my stance he completely changed his approach and asked could he get a partial refund and some of my cables. I accepted his offer because I really didn't want any bad blood with a customer. I sent Rudy $400 and some of my cables... after he got the cables and the money he then began his rant on the cable asylum about how I scammed him.Bottom line is Rudy was mad that I would not give him a full refund...so he did what he had to do to get a $400 partial refund and cables from me...after he received the $400 and cables he reverted back to the crazy rude Rudy and posted here that I scammed him.
RE: ELF AUDIO is GONE!, posted on July 16, 2009 at 07:42:17
rzigray@wrmills.com
AudiophilePosts: 71
Joined: March 29, 2007
Here is a copy and paste of the trolls emails, you can see for yourself. No where did I ask for his garbage wire. This is his MO and he insisted I take his trash as a remedy for the situation. The same thing he did for this gentleman....pasted below as well... You can see it is he who made the offer not me....total proof this guy is a scammerRudy,
> >
> > I see you already filed a complaint with paypal. I will send this link to
> > paypal
> > http://trkcnfrm1.smi.usps.com/PTSInternetWeb/InterLabelInquiry.do?origTrackNum=03082040000037156177
> > to prove I did my part,paypal will make a decision on the out come based
> > on the facts presented by both parties. I will also forward them a copy
> > of the delivery confirmation slip,that has your confirmed paypal address
> > on it.
> >
> > I will no longer work with you because you filed a claim with paypal,I
> > will let paypal handle this. I'm pretty confident that I will not be held
> > responsible for you not receiving your cables. In the mean time,you will
> > still be out of $861.00,so I don't see the point.
> >
> > To make us both happy,I will honor my offer of $400.00 plus a pair of my
> > Super Helix Gold speaker cables in the length of your choice,plus two
> > pair of matching interconnects if you cancel the paypal dispute.
> > Kind Regards,
> > Ernest Lee Farley III of ELF Audio
> > paypal email address:ernestfarley@att.net
Look at how this idiot says "I wont work with you, since you filed a dispute with paypal, then he says to make us both happy " I will honor my offer of.......what a dick....
Did you ever move forward with a complaint. The more I think about your situation and the situation I encountered (with all my still unanswered questions), some sort of response to Audiogon is probably warranted. Let me know your thoughts. NMCPS- I don’t dwell on it much but your email caused me to mull it over again.
From: (deleted by me)
To:rzigray@fastmail.fm [Add]
Date:Wed, 27 May 2009 3:03 PM (2 months ago)
Show originalShow full headerHello. My comments in ELFs feedback refer to a situation where I bought an
expensive ($500+) Jolida CD player from him and never received it. After
much back and forth with both ELF and USPS, I am still undecided about what
happened.ELF said he shipped it to me but could not provide relevant backup data. He
said he did not keep USPS receipts for long. USPS said the tracking number
provided by ELF was for a very small package- a cable, I believe, which is
what I think he mainly sells- sent around the time of my "scheduled"
delivery to a nearby Mclean, VA address, but not MY address. He said the
package was insured, but that USPS would not pay up on the insurance because
the package WAS in fact delivered, just not my package (which would have
weighed 20 lbs).Since his documentation was fuzzy and the USPS had their documentation
painting a different story, I tentatively concluded that ELF had never
mailed a package TO ME (I have a 90% feeling this). However, there is a
slight chance (10%) that he told the truth and the USPS lost the package.ELF did work out a deal with me involving some cash back and a few sets of
his Gold Helix ICs. These came through OK and the product is good.That is my view on things.
I will keep your situation in confidence and appreciate your discretion on
my viewpoint.Sincerely,
-----Original Message-----
From: rzigray@fastmail.fm [mailto:rzigray@fastmail.fm]
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:20 AM
To:
Subject: A transaction with ELF AudioTO:
Hi,
If you would, please keep this confidential, until I find out whats going
on.Hi, My name is Rudolff Zigray. I recently purchased a pair of speaker
cables off of Ernest of Elf Audio. They were not Elf Audio Cables. They
were a 3 meter pair of Audience AU24e speaker cables. I paid 861 dollars
for the cables. Ernest shipped the cables USPS, with out no insurance or
Direct Signature. I never received my item. Nor based on the service
Ernest used, can I verify what address was on the box.Ernest tells me he never had an issue using USPS and this if the first time
anything like this happened. This is why he did not ship with insurance or
direct signature. He refused to refund my money but offered his cables
instead.Now, I am not sure what happened. Ernest seems to be honest. But when I
saw the feedback you left Elf Audio, You state you had an issue in which
something happened to your item, USPS screwed up? and Ernest gave you cables
instead? Was your item something other than Elf Cables?I am a member with oustanding feedback. I really appreciate if you could
please describe your experience with Ernest of Elf Audio. It will help me
in my situation right now. If I can be any help to you in the future,
please do not hesitate to ask. Again, I thank you for your time and
consideration into this matter.Kindest regards
Rudolff
If he had the proof he would have shared it. You now either accept the fact you were ripped off or take legal action. You will accomplish nothing more here.
Losing $861 stings but it is not life changing money. I suspect you can survive it.
FWIW, I would never consider doing business with him. I don't know why anyone would who has followed this thread.
Wendell
I wonder why the moderator deleted all of our post asking Troll to prove the message was left. His failure to produce was a clear indication that he is a liar. They also deleted his pictures on shady asylum but not here. Is there something I am missing? (besides my 861 dollars of course)
Thanks again
Rudy
I suspect they want you two to communicate privately and keep it off these forums. Someone may have complained or they may just be tired of it. Best for you to ask them.
Brad at RAL didn't have any negative feedback either...
Rudy's statement in no negates what happened....I see debating wasn't your forte in school
Yeah but Brad had tons of customers complaining on Audiogon as well as on the Cable asylum...I only have one complaining customer.Also RAL didn't nearly have the amount of positive feedbacks as myself.RAL had limited feedback and he couldn't get away with ripping people off for long...I have earned very extensive feedback which you can't earn from ripping people off...my feedback score more than triples yours CPK.CPK I just checked out your feedback on Audiogon and your last positive feedback was on 6-18-09...I had five positive feedbacks since then...come on CPK even during this Rudy ordeal I was still selling more than you.
CPK...you've been selling on Audiogon since 2001 and you only have 88 sales with a feedback score of 264...I've been selling on Audiogon two years less than you since 2003 and had 298 sales with a feedback score of 894...seems to me you are just jealous.
CPK let Rudy speak for himself and stop kissing his ass emailing him about my business like a little girl. I replied to Rudys post, why are you replying to my reply to Rudy???...CPK judging by your feedback your sales are very limited and far apart which means you have too much time on your hands worrying about an issue between Rudy and myself...go braid up some power cords and get a life.
on my bulk wire page, no one will notice.
Your actions speak louder then any drivel you write, and don't worry I expected it from you so I saved a screen shot earlier today of your page on my computer at my office prior to you changing it.
I’ll post it later.
Ernest, come now, I have only had commercial product since Jan. 2008. and until Sept. 2008 it was only one, my original powercord.
First your cordial and then when you have been caught in your bullshit (like above) you resort to half-truths and misinformation as to deflect the attention off yourself rather then addressing it which is your MO.
If your prior business was so great you would have made reference to it on your new site, you didn’t. As you didn’t bother to mention to anyone here who you really were until you were called out by me. You used to proudly end your post with your full name when your moniker was Audiophile36, no longer, why would that be Ernest. You behavior is one of a person trying to hide there past identity, not one who has nothing to hide. You realize the more you write, the more you make yourself look bad.
It seems to me that Rudy has responded to your endless posts, you are just unable to do what is right and continue through your actions to display a nature of inherent dishonesty.
Picture look familiar? It's the same one that is on your bulkwire page. Stop telling people your wire is gold plated OCC, it’s not, neither Neotech or Furukawa make such a beast. You use cheap wire from Parawire.
CPK...this type of behavior that you demonstrate explains a lot about you...you are in the same business as I am,yet you never had any personal dealings with me nor have I had any with you,yet you feel the need to follow my every move and reply to all of my posts with information that has nothing to do with the original posters question.You are not helping the original poster when you do this infact you are highjacking threads and helping destroy the Cable Asylum.
CPK I'm not going to argue back and forth with you about petty stuff that has nothing to do with you.I hope you put as much effort in your own cable business as you do in worrying about mine.
CPK my business is doing well and I wish you good luck with your business and I hope everyone buys one of your powercords...Oh yeah if you reply to any of my posts and aren't posting anything constructive or helpful you will be politely ignored.
Ernest your response is disingenuous. You deleted your account here and on A-gon because your issues with Rudy and there was a black mark associated with your name. Coming back under a new moniker and not telling people who you are is dishonest, not petty and not a fact that you can argue. You don’t even mention your prior business name on your new site, why would that be?
It is people like you that give cable manufacturer’s a bad name, so yeah it does say a lot about me, I am willing to call a spade a spade.
Also you have been on AA long enough to know that using your new company name as a moniker is not allowed.
I guess in all the account deleting, moniker changing, industry rule violating it slipped his mind that your IP address is at the top of every post you make.
Ya gotta hand it to him. He's a smooth operator. (o:
He even went as far to change the look of his product. I told you the boy wasnt bright.
Why all of a sudden change your cable jackets?
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