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There is a metric

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E-Stat

In Reply to: RE: What is the perfect amount of resistance, inductance, and capacitance posted by G Squared on September 29, 2022 at 14:09:35

called effective dielectric constant which is essentially the product of L and C with a constant involved. It is a measure in the time domain. Ideal value is 1.

Here are a couple of examples:

Belden 5T00UP speaker cable-3.77
Nordost Valhalla-1.32

Follow Ups:

But the dielectric is the insulating material not the conductor. - geoffkait 12:14:32 12/02/22 (8)
Nt
- Yes -nt - E-Stat 12:34:27 12/02/22 (7)
  - Uh, dielectric constant is independent of conductor characteristics L, R, C. - geoffkait 14:26:52 12/02/22 (6)
    Air is 1.0
    
    Edits: 12/02/22
    - Break out the dictionary - E-Stat 14:33:16 12/02/22 (5)
      and refresh your understanding of the word "effective". An equivalent term yielding the same results is "velocity of propagation". That's what Nordost uses.
      
      Or, just argue with the wall. :)
      - One can't help wonder where Nordost stands on directionality? - geoffkait 16:53:48 12/02/22 (4)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Break out the dictionary posted by E-Stat on December 02, 2022 at 14:33:16
        
        If your rule brought you to this point what good is your rule?
        
        Nordost cables are marked with direction - E-Stat 17:06:13 12/02/22 (3)
        
        In Reply to: RE: One can't help wonder where Nordost stands on directionality? posted by geoffkait on December 02, 2022 at 16:53:48
        
        as are my JPS Labs Superconductor+ cables with a similar EDC. Along with Better Cable Blue Truth Ultras in balanced XLR.
        
        The most transparent cables in my experience share low ( <1.5) EDC.
        
        Nordost doesn't believe in wire directionality - geoffkait 03:05:15 12/03/22 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Nordost cables are marked with direction posted by E-Stat on December 02, 2022 at 17:06:13
        
        From Nordost web page,
        Q: I recently bought a pair of Nordost interconnects, and I noticed arrows on the heat-shrink. Is there are reason that these cables are directional? If so, which way should I install them?
        A: Typically, when cables are manufactured they do not have any directionality—they acquire directionality as they break in. However, Nordost single ended (RCA) interconnects are built as directional cables, since the shield is only connected at the source, or output, end. When installing the cables into your system, the arrows should always point away from the source. For example, from a CD player to an amplifier, the arrows should point towards the preamplifier or power amplifier.
        > > > > Nordost actually doesn't believe in "directionality," in the sense I'm always discussing - that wire (and consequently cables) sound different depending on direction. I am not referring to shielded cables or single ended cables, those are separate issues. Nordost cable arrows are only for proper installation for Nordost cables with *shields* Their belief that "cables acquire directionality as they break in" is incorrect. All wire is directional (physically asymmetrical) as a result of the manufacturing process. So cables that have thoroughly broken in will sound different when reversed. Just like new cables. Just like fuses.
        People jokingly say power cords can't be directional because they have a plug at one end. Yet power cords are directional too, they need to be "controlled for directionality" during manufacture, like AudioQuest does. Wire and cables exhibit directionality in AC circuits and DC circuits.
        By the way, I would take air dielectric constant of 1.0 over 1.5 EDC any day.
        
        Edits: 12/03/22 12/03/22
        
        Believe whatever you will - E-Stat 07:02:15 12/03/22 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Nordost doesn't believe in wire directionality posted by geoffkait on December 03, 2022 at 03:05:15
        
        Maybe call yourself with the Teleportation Tweak.
        
        I see why you're in the peanut gallery. - geoffkait 08:28:08 12/03/22 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Believe whatever you will posted by E-Stat on December 03, 2022 at 07:02:15
        
        Everything's topsy turvy. Me topsy, you turvy.

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