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In Reply to: RE: Audio Show Experiment....... posted by Todd Krieger on May 20, 2007 at 19:40:31
The belief that one can walk into an unfamiliar room, listen to an unfamiliar stereo system, and then make any valid statement whatsoever about what the amplifier used in that unfamiliar stereo system sounds like ... is COMPLETE HIGH-END AUDIO BALONEY.
And thats even if the room had good acoustics.
John Dunlavy used to annoy his prototype speaker listening panel by using ordinary 12AWG zip cord as speaker wire. So he did "experiments" with the panel telling him his employee had changed the wires. The panel "heard" the changes. Dunlavy revealed online in the late 1990's that his employee NEVER changed any speaker cables -- his listeners just imagined these changes! Soon after, Dunlavy began selling Dunlavy speaker cables -- something like $1000/pair. He never made false claims about them, but obviously knew a good profit margin when he saw one!
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Richard BassNut Greene
Subjective Audiophile 2007
Gotta know the landscape (don't forget the software played as well) in order to make any relevant determinations.
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Richard,
You're slipping! I cannot believe it but I'm in 100% agreement with your statement: "The belief that one can walk into an unfamiliar room, listen to an unfamiliar stereo system, and then make any valid statement whatsoever about what the amplifier used in that unfamiliar stereo system sounds like ... is COMPLETE HIGH-END AUDIO BALONEY."
This supports precisely a statement I've made here numerous times, i.e "A person MUST first become intimately familiar with an audio system BEFORE attempting to determine how any of the individual sound by themselves." Bravo Richard we'll make a real honest to goodness subjectivist out of you yet...
Thetubeguy1954
I've found most rooms at audio shows to be so bad acoustically that I always wanted to hear the gear somewhere else!
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Richard BassNut Greene
Subjective Audiophile 2007
Oscar Mayer just doesn't do it..... Nor does Hebrew National.....
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The threshold for disproving something is higher than the threshold for saying it, which is a recipe for the accumulation of bullshit - Softky
...with Hebrew National.
My biggest complaint about Hebrew National is the containers for their cold cuts..... It's not re-sealable like Oscar Mayer's..... Add the fact the products don't hold up as long in the fridge..... I stopped eating Hebrew National because I too often got an upset stomach.....
Now if their products came individually wrapped (or smaller packages), it would be another story.....
They're really full of Bologna because they're made in Bologna Italy! :^)
As an interesting side-bar & for some additional info. In Italian the letter n in Bologna is actually ņ, which as everyone knows does not exist in America english nor is it pronounced. So instead of pronouncing it bologna (bow-loan-e or ba-loan-e) you'd actually pronounce it boloņa. That's for anyone who cares...
Thetubeguy1954
> The belief that one can walk into an unfamiliar room, listen to an unfamiliar stereo system, and then make any valid statement whatsoever about what the amplifier used in that unfamiliar stereo system sounds like ... is COMPLETE HIGH-END AUDIO BALONEY. <
I agree with you.
That's twice!
I'm flabbergasted
R. BassNut Greene
-- I have been waiting since 1996 for an appropriate
time to use the word "flabbergasted" in a post.
-- My next goal is to find the appropriate time
to use "flabbergasted" and "lollygagging"
in the same sentence in a post.
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Richard BassNut Greene
Subjective Audiophile 2007
I think that is Monty Python - if not, it ought to be.
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Hey, the sun shines on a snakes underpinning once in awhile! :)
My favorite story is when at an audio show, a particular Stereophile former contributor came up to the exhibit I was witnessing, sat down, and within 30 seconds proclaimed the speakers to be fine but the amp to be colored. Talk about flabbergasted!
Geez Kerr, you should have suggested to the reviewer that he lollygag for awhile so he'd have additional time to make a better determination.
Thetubeguy1954
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