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RE: small scale speaker management - future almost here but not quite?

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In Reply to: RE: small scale speaker management - future almost here but not quite? posted by Pro Sound Guy on November 23, 2011 at 16:03:13

Thanks for the comments.

So you recommend the Behringer products for field production work? I've read (on the internet...) that the construction quality of their equipment can be dicey. My own experience with a Behringer USB DJ controller was that it was buggy and unreliable from the software perspective, and that their support was poor.

BTW, the DCX2496 model seems to have most or all of the features of the DEQ version plus adds crossover features. Frankly, if I could trust it to be reliable I would buy one, plus an external sound card with optical out. What I don't understand is why Behringer doesn't offer it with the sound card function built in.

I gather Peavey has a similar model with many of the same functions, but it costs a couple hundred bucks more. Still no USB support though.

Does anybody know what BBE or DBX have in the works? Both of theses companies have provided production ready products to this market in the past.

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RE: small scale speaker management - future almost here but not quite? - Pro Sound Guy 07:37:43 11/29/11 (3)
Just purchase it with a waranty plan for a few bucks more

For the price this unit will work fine for a DJ setup

You can certainly get better but you are going to have to put out way more ching then you probably want to invest in this setup
- RE: small scale speaker management - future almost here but not quite? - BofService 17:26:12 11/30/11 (2)
  Been there, not worth the hassle. All those hours of struggling with a piece of gear that is flaking out. Then hassle with the warranty repair, shipping, being without equipment... That is a mistake not worthy of repeating.
  
  Thanks for your thoughts though.
  Gary
  - RE: small scale speaker management - future almost here but not quite? - WR Sugar 15:46:05 12/27/11 (1)
    Typically, outboard sound cards just sound a lot better. Add in the fact that most are tiny and can be velcro-ed to the inside of the rack, or wherever, and it's a practical solution. Plus you can have dual/multiple assignable outs - one for the headphone/cue and one for the main mix. The M-Audio cards are a terrific value.
    
    Is he using a DJ controller? Most controllers have decent sound cards built in as well. USB into the device and away you go.
    
    To start over would be fun. I do this:
    PC/MAC + iPOD
    Midi DJ Controller with sufficient inputs and effects.
    dBX Driverack PA+ (and get a measurement mic - it auto calibrates very easily)
    AMP 1 tops
    AMP 2 subs (toroidal-style unit)
    DMX controller
    
    Pop it all in a new SKB molded rack with a pop up laptop tray and play panty-dropper records til last call.
    - RE: small scale speaker management - future almost here but not quite? - BofService 19:34:03 12/27/11 (0)
      Hey WR. Your plan sounds great, though it is perhaps more difficult to execute than it is to describe...
      
      And that is my point. In striking a balance between flexibility and reliability, I'm tending toward a completely integrated solution. That way there are no "integration" issues, which seem to proliferate in the digital realm. Right now external sound cards sound better, but that circuit could easily be integrated into the Driverack, DCX2496, etc. Realistically, anything that can be cabled together could just as well be incorporated into a single device. This approach reduces duplicated power supplies, thus reducing overall cost and power consumption. It also reduces the likely hood of ground/hum problems, reduces cabling cost, and provides the opportunity for a lower noise floor. Finally, it improves reliability by eliminating cable connections and reducing the number of failure points.
      
      OTOH, if one function/feature fails your whole rig could go down, and you might have to send it to the manufacturer to get it fixed.
      
      I don't have enough real experience to know what the right combination of equipment is, but it seems like the DCX processor should do the sound card function too.
      
      Gary

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