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In Reply to: RE: No one survives the Apple Mothership.... posted by AbeCollins on January 17, 2025 at 16:26:38
Couldn't hold out any longer, afraid of an exploding Mac, AND, not to get political, exploding tariffs. The CSS (customer support specialist) at the 'ship said that's more common with bulging phone batteries. She was from Alabama and that gave me an opening to ask about the education discount since daughter no. 1 was just accepted to Alabama. Roll Tide. Got me a $200 discount.
Heh, I bought my first computer by going to the ACMA mfg. facility in Fremont, my second at the Gateway store! Apple is much slicker, only wish they had the Mini configuration I wanted in stock. Oh well, it will take me a couple of weeks to get the new Pro set up. I want to keep both of them as uncluttered as possible.
Follow Ups:
"I want to keep both of them as uncluttered as possible"
It is tempting to use the Mac utility to transplant the apps and preferences from your old computer into the new one. The tool is seamless and hassle-free and has you up and running in a familiar user environment in a very short time. If programs are outdated and unsupported by the new OS, it will give you a report of those.
However, if you have the patience I recommend that you reinstall the apps, manually copy over your local data, and build it up from scratch. The utility is thorough to a fault and will port over whatever corruptions and leftover debris may have accumulated over the lifespan of the old computer. Like you, I tend to keep my computers in service for many years. I prefer to use every new setup as an opportunity to weed out that old junk, including stuff you may not even know is there. It also acts as a kind of software audit to remind you of what you have and what you use or don't use so that you can eliminate some bloat. The risk is that you may forget or overlook something, so this approach works best if you can keep the old one around and not blank it out to sell or give away.
Have fun and enjoy your new toys.
. . . in theory, practice and theory are the same; in practice, they are different . . .
Thanks for the advice.
I wouldn't say I have the patience, but I do have the time, so your second idea is what I'm going to do. I've only used the restore from Time Machine backup once, when I tried to update the OS, and it was a failure. Apple sent me an email giving suggestions and the one I think I'll use is the target disk mode, at least for larger files. Seems simple enough, so I'll give that one a go. I have a few large purchased hi rez music files to test it out on. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast will be my motto.
Everyone now has their own machine, so no more "family computer clutter" on these new ones. I'm definitely keeping this old one, assuming the battery replacement is successful!
Sounds like you have a solid transition plan.
Target disk mode is kind of a legacy from before home LANs were commonplace. It will work just fine and will be faster and more foolproof than wifi. But unless you are transferring ginormous amounts of data there is no appreciable advantage compared with ethernet. If you can connect the two computers on your wired network it may not be worth the trouble to engage target disk mode. In either case, just make sure you are on line power, not battery. You don't want a shutdown in the middle of a transfer.
Good luck with it, whatever you decide.
. . . in theory, practice and theory are the same; in practice, they are different . . .
No wired network in my old house (there were plans*), so it's wifi or at best E(thernet) O(ver) P(owerline), which is how my SB Touch, and soon the Mini will be connected.
I'm actually surprised how little I have on the old machine I need or want to transfer, as long as the content is preserved somewhere. I didn't really need the MB Pro for actual use as a high powered machine, just wanted that 16" screen (and wanted to avoid a battery fire!) As far as the Mini, it will be a mostly exclusive streaming box for ROON/Qobuz. I have a few purchased and downloaded music files that are not on the streaming services, but not many.
*Literal architect drawn plans. I see in your profile you are a retired architect. We worked with a wonderful one to design a proposed second story addition to our 1956 ranch box. Unfortunately, once we were done and getting bids the housing and construction market here rebounded ferociously, and cost became prohibitive, and she was VERY budget conscious on our behalf. One of my favorite parts of her design was her recommendation for Big Ass Fans! I still look at the box of rolled up plans and get misty. But my knees would never have survived the stairs anyway.
OK, sounds like target disk mode may work for you after all. I can't remember the last time I used it - 15 years ago or more. Or else just work through wifi if your connection is reliable. I've never dealt with a powerline network system so can't comment on that.
Glad to hear you had a good experience with your architect even if the outcome was disappointing. I was in practice for 45 years but did little residential design work other than my own homes. I admire those who do it well. You've got to be 1/3 psychiatrist and occasional marriage counselor. Helping people create their dwelling space is a very personal thing. I'll take a soulless corporation as my client every time.
. . . in theory, practice and theory are the same; in practice, they are different . . .
I was really disappointed we couldn't finish, but it would have been well over $500,000, not including $5,000/mo to rent a house for probably a year. My wife had a colleague who lives a couple of blocks away who did do a remodel almost exactly like what we planned (he had much more money and will be there much longer than we had planned) and it turned out so nicely. Made me feel a little better about what we had in mind. I swear he stole our blueprints! I always thought if I could restart my life I would have been an architect. My daughter has the skills, and I keep suggesting it to her, we'll see if she listens when it's time to go to college next year.
Nice to get that education discount on Apple gear which is rarely discounted.
I don't remember if I've ever been to ACMA but I recall buying a clone PC fairly cheap at one of the large computer stores in Freemont. I was living in my one bedroom apartment in Pleasanton (is that 'East Bay'?) at that time. I do recall many trips down to Fry's Electronics in Freemont. When I moved to Mountain View it made more sense to visit Fry's in Palo Alto. All closed and just a distant memory.
My wife is still happy with her ancient and slow iMac. I mentioned that she might want a new one but she just shrugged it off.
I lived in College Terrace for too many decades about a mile from Fry's where I could get easily get some hard to get stuff. I didn't get the cowboy theme place with horses, etc. when you walked in but just read that
(AI) "The Palo Alto, California Fry's Electronics store had a Western theme because of the store's designer, Eric Christensen. Christensen was a former movie set prop builder who also designed items for George Lucas' home and ranch". I didn't know it closed a few years ago and is being replaced by
74 townhomes, a park and affordable housing (affordable?). I knew even less about its history:
Ah, Fry's, here's my own personal Fry's timelineI grew up in Hayward, definitely East Bay. Our local grocery store was, Fry's Foods where we did all our grocery shopping. The owner sold the business and gave his kids, including one John C. Fry, shares of the proceeds. They started Fry's Electronics.
I worked a couple of blocks from Fry's in Palo Alto. I spent many a lunch hour strolling the aisles, between there and Tower Records a bit down the street in Los Altos, a good portion of my paycheck was spent.
Fast forward to a few years ago. My daughter started ballet training. The school was the former school of the defunct Silicon Valley/Cleveland Ballet. One of the benefactors of the SVB was one, John C. Fry. One of my daughter's teachers was a former principal dancer of the SVB. She was involved in an "intimate relationship" with Mr. Fry. When my daughter decided to quit, said teacher had just had a baby, fathered by, guess who, John C. Fry.
There is a former Fry's near me that they are turning into a pickle ball center!
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This of course was decades ago.
We may even have unknowingly run into each other there. I always thought that its location, being on the Bay side of El Camino Real was actually in Mountain View.
I think you're right, literally one side of the street (blue signs?) was Mt. View, the other side (brown signs ?) was Los Altos, which of course meant more $$$. Now that you mention it, there was always some odd fellow lurking around the babe musician
selections, hmmm.
It's all changed. Chef Chu's is still there. That's where we would go to celebrate a "victory", for the lawyers anyway. It was such a great store. I go by there to my Dr.'s appts., which is sadly all to frequently now.
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