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In Reply to: RE: RPI4 - Volumio and lost connection... posted by wheezer on December 25, 2024 at 09:11:39
I would steer clear of Volumio, it has always been a buggy mess and will likely stay that way. I find that software which is constantly being updated like it and MoOde for example always have bugs as the constant updates of added, taking away, and re-arranging features just introduces bugs. Then they go in and fix the bugs and end up changing something else and the cycle continues.
Look at the changelog for MaterialSkin used for LMS now[LYRION] it gets updates nearly every other week and you will see 'Fix' this, 'Fix' that, all throughout the changelog. Like a rat on a wheel, hes full steam ahead with change for the sake of change.
J.
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Sounds like iphone updates.
What do you suggest I load my RPI4 with in place of volumio?
I use Volumio on my RPis but just a a DLNA/Airplay endpoint. I don't use the native interface at all. I also use version 2, not the latest version 3. It works for what I need. It was easy to set up initially a few years ago when nothing else would work like that, but things have changed for the better. I just stuck with it because it works.
I tried V3 and never got it to work smoothly. I mostly wanted to do multiroom sync which only works on the latest paid version. I may have paid if it worked flawlessly, which it doesn't, and if it worked properly as a DLNA endpoint with Audirvana. It isn't clear if it is Audirvana or Volumio that has the problem.
Its been a few years since I tried Volumio but was very disappointed with it. Unstable and lots of difficulty scanning my local collection.
I've used pCP (piCorePlayer) for many years and have always been pleased with its performance on my various RPi players (3B, 4 & 5.)
Volumio uses Music Player Daemon 'MPD'.If you strictly want to use MPD, then MoOde and Max2Play might be your only options for 'free' players.
https://www.max2play.com/en/
https://moodeaudio.org/
If you are open to squeezelite then piCorePlayer might be your best bet.https://www.picoreplayer.org/
If you want a variety of players to choose from in one OS then Dietpi is a great option.https://dietpi.com/
piCorePlayer and Dietpi are pretty rock solid in terms of being glitch-free and both have pretty good support forums.Regards
J.
Edits: 12/25/24
Thanks for the feedback.
I've been using volumio for a few years and couldn't tolerate it anymore. I had no idea of the market offerings.
BTW, turning off wifi didn't do squat.
The 'market' has much more to offer with regards to RPI music player software/Operating systems.
Others are a bit more obscure and/or come at a cost.
However in terms of streaming music we have a pretty set number of options; Squeezelite, MPD, BlueTooth, Airplay and Upnp.
Dietpi will offer all of the above, maybe even more, and its free and stable/dependable.
Forgoing the need for more frustrations I would recommend either piCorePlayer [which will require Lyrion formerly Logitech Media Server] -or- Dietpi.
Enjoy
J.
> > "Forgoing the need for more frustrations I would recommend either piCorePlayer [which will require Lyrion formerly Logitech Media Server]"
piCorePlayer includes LMS as an optional function, so a single RPi can serve as both player and LMS server. And, once LMS is enabled (pCP has an on/off option for this feature), that RPi can also function as a server for additional Squeezelite players.
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"If you want a variety of players to choose from in one OS then Dietpi is a great option."I've been running stripped down DietPi (no desktop, no video, no keyboard/mouse, etc) for several years on my Raspberry Pi's. I have SSH running so I can login and configure it remotely over the network via terminal window from my Mac.
There are several players that can be installed from within DietPi making installation a breeze. I've been using just Roon Bridge on DietPi on my Raspberry Pi network streamers. The setup has been rock solid stable with no issues for years. I drive my USB DACs directly from the Raspberry Pi 4's. I believe DietPi on Raspberry Pi 5 is still in testing.
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Wow, a lot has changed since I bought my RPI4 in 1/21.
I've got much to learn as all the above is Greek to me.
I do know volumio is intolerable.
I agree, Dietpi is great.
Now that I've started using Roon I use RoonBridge with TinyCore Linux. Like Dietpi just stripped down base image with RoonBridge installed. I re-mastered it as my own .img file so I can flash it to my other SD cards for the rest of my RPI's, which are outside of my main system.
J.
Since I run DietPi very stripped down and 'headless' with no desktop environment, no keyboard or mouse support, no video output, etc. some might be wondering.....How would one have access to the Raspberry Pi at all in order to install software and manage configuration? As it turns out - and lucky for us - even the most stripped down base DietPi includes something they call Dropbear which is a lightweight SSH server.
1 - Create bootable DietPi SD card for Raspberry Pi.
2 - Connect Raspberry Pi over Ethernet (not wifi) and boot it up.
3 - Find Raspberry Pi IP address using iPhone App to 'scan' the network.
4 - From a terminal window: ssh root@IPaddr (the Raspberry Pi's IP Address)
5 - default root password: dietpiOnce logged in DietPi presents a few text based menus in your terminal window for further configuration. The nice thing about Roon and Roon Bridge (once installed and running on the Raspberry Pi) is that you won't need to figure out the Raspberry Pi's IP address ever again (as you do with some other players). Roon will auto-discover the Roon Bridge and display it along with it's IP address. Pretty cool. Similarly for the USB DAC on the Raspberry Pi / Roon Bridge, it just works. Unlike pCP and others you don't have to find or take educated guesses at the device path and input it manually.
Screen captures from several years ago. Wow, these are old!
I was running Raspberry Pi 3 back then.
Edits: 12/28/24
wow the screenshots are old posts; appear to be native Dos.
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest piCorePlayer.No terminal window commands required, it has a nice user interface with everything you need to set up the server, client, mounting usb drives, tweaking, audio output, wifi, etc.
There should be a pretty shallow learning curve to get completely up and running with any configuration you want.
As an added bonus you can even set your wifi in the SD card immediately after you flash it with the OS. This way as soon as you put it into your Raspberrypi you are connected to the network and ready to go....
The piCorePlayer 'getting started' page is pretty well laid out and easy to understand as well.
https://docs.picoreplayer.org/getting-started/
Have fun
J.
Edits: 12/31/24
No, not DOS but it sure looks old ;-)
It's just a command-line "terminal window" on my Mac for inputting commands and displaying the output. The vintage-look menu system you see is from DietPi within that terminal window. You could just as well use a terminal window from a Windows 10/11 PC.... or even one of those old dedicated computer terminals like a DEC VT100 series.
It sure was reminiscent of early DOS, among other OSs.
Excellent info for those of us(me) who are less-informed.
Thanks Abe,
-W
surely it could help lower the learning curve.
Dietpi is pretty intuitive, just wish the dietpi-'commands' would come back every time I go back to the terminal screen. Sometimes I forget.
J.
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