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In Reply to: RE: Audio capture device recommendations posted by jorisdallaire on October 07, 2024 at 13:09:51

I just ordered the Behringer UCA202 which was basically the same price as the PCI adapter card needed to run the M-audio on modern PCIe bus. Let's hear it, if it's good enough I'll let go of the M-Audio and won't be tied to an obsolete technology.

I can hook the Behringer through an independently powered usb hub if it needs more power supply hoompf, although it will be connected to a desktop PC which probably has enough drive.

Thanks to all who replied.

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RE: Thanks for your input - Skip Pack 08:44:55 10/14/24 (4)
One more thought -- I have found that capturing at the highest available sampling rate (192khz in my case) is helpful. I fully acknowledge that the best vinyl signal does not need that, but I have found that the high sample rates do a better job of capturing the noise, particularly ticks and pops that have rise times exceeding any music. This allows the remedial DSP processes to be applied very gently. The result is much less or no noise with little or no degradation of the music quality. I have seen(heard) this with both Audacity and Vinyl Studio.

Music captured at 44.1khz can sound great from very clean inputs, but requires more processing to lower the noise, which, in turn, diminishes the audio quality of the music itself.

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- RE: Thanks for your input - AbeCollins 11:18:48 10/23/24 (2)
  I did most of my vinyl digitizing at 24/96 which is the max supported by the HRT Linestreamer + ADC.
  I used Audacity on the Mac to capture one complete LP side and then the other side. I then used Audacity to break each side into tracks and manually input metadata for each track.
  Most of my records were pretty clean but some had a loud pop or two. I would painstakingly "zoom in" on those peaks and manually suppress them with Audacity. I would leave the 'quieter' noise alone as it wasn't worth chasing down every little bit of it.
  Man, that was tedious !!
  I'm not familiar with Vinyl Studio but I suspect it offered some automation to make life easier than using Audacity.
  What DSP did you apply and was it applied to the music file or applied real-time during playback?
  
  Edits: 10/23/24
  - RE: Thanks for your input - Skip Pack 09:47:43 10/24/24 (1)
    Your workflow is the same as mine back when I could only capture 16/44.1 with the Hagerman Ripper (a nice device). When I got a more capable device (the Steinberg UR22mkII) that does 192/24, I went to Vinyl Studio.
    
    VS has a really nice workflow for ripping and processing. The high resolution with the absolute minimal setting for tick and pop removal give a clean output with no sound quality drop (to my old ears). It's a cheap program, well maintained with responsive support. Audacity is a nifty toolbox but I seem to need reeducation every time I go to use it. The one thing I do use Audacity for more frequently is confirming what sounds like mild clipping and oversampling induced clipping.
    
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    - RE: Thanks for your input - AbeCollins 07:50:45 10/25/24 (0)
      Thanks.
      
      I remember someone here mentioning Vinyl Studio way back when. I never tried it but probably should have. Audacity wasn't difficult for me to use but there wasn't much joy in the all manual workflow.
      
      My PS Audio GCPH phono preamp had a variable output level control so I was able to use that to drive the HRT Linestreamer + ADC directly. The phono level control along with the Audacity level control and VU meters helped to establish a sufficiently strong signal so the resulting file didn't sound anemic or over driven. I would keep the VU meters way into the green with the very occasional slight clip into the red. I used headphones on the computer to monitor in real time.
      
      It was fun until it became too much work!
- RE: Thanks for your input - jorisdallaire 08:59:58 10/14/24 (0)
  Thanks for your reply. I take good note of that, especially since I gave up doing click and pop removal in Audacity as I found it degraded the musical signal. This was done at 96KHz as it's the maximum on my old equipment but I'll make sure to try it on higher sampling rates when equipment upgrades allow.

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