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In Reply to: RE: More computer related than audio related, but. . . posted by Chris from Lafayette on September 23, 2024 at 17:36:43
I usually just lurk here, sorry for the slow response. I've been running the 2.0 offering since December 2023. Your problem is the garbage 3rd party hardware from Comcast. Their docsis 3.1 modem is not made for the new offering or they sent you the wrong hardware, regardless of what you're being told by Comcast support. Even though I told them I would run my own hardware, they sent theirs and before I sent it back I tested it and had the same results you are getting.
Here is a list of approved hardware. If the link doesn't work, I've also included the URL. Sorry for being obtuse.
Hardware
In my general application, my house and user base (my family) I'm using the CODA56, rated at 2.3 Gbps which I'm getting at the router; Available on Amazon. The cost has gone up a bit but it's cheaper then the offerings from Netgear and Arris (good equipment but the Hitron is cheaper).
A couple of other random comments. I don't know your config, however, for wireless devices you are probably only seeing between 300 - 500 Mbps at the wireless device at best.
For the average user (email, video conferencing, streaming) 100 Mbps is fine. I'm an edge case, so I need everything I can get.
With Mac: IMacs 2019 have Gbps capabilities and run WIFI5. I'm aware the Mac Mini M1 and M2 having Gbps hardware and Wifi 6.
BTW, it's not that web sites can't send content out quicker, they can and in many cases do but are hindered by dumping their content on the general (web) network, the limiter is mostly based on quality of the networks, hops, locations and stuff.
Follow Ups:
This is the type of help I was hoping for when I originally started this thread!
If getting 2Gbps requires replacing Xfinity's cable modem (even their latest and greatest), I will very likely do it!
Thanks again.
Maybe I'm not understanding your setup but are you actually achieving over 1-Gigabit/Sec throughout your home?Do you have network switches that support over 1-Gigabit/Sec?
Do your PCs or Macs have Ethernet ports that can deliver over 1-Gigabit/Sec?
If you do, then you do in fact have the networking infrastructure to support faster than 1-Gigabit/Sec service from your ISP. Most of us don't so paying for anything over 1-Gibabit/Sec would be a waste.
Even if I had Xfinity 2-Gbs/sec service I would never see that on any of my devices as the hardware is all capped at 1-Gigabit/Sec.
WiFi is the wildcard. Can you achieve anything over 1-Gigabit/Sec over your WiFi? I'm on Xfinity 800 Mbs/sec service and I achieve about 930 Mbs over Ethernet and around 600 Mbs/sec over WiFi depending on where I'm at in the house. I'm on a fairly recent Xfinity WiFi gateway (with the 2.5Gpbs ports on back).
I'm more curious about what you're able to achieve over WiFi.
Thanks.
Edits: 09/25/24
Hi Abe, answers inline:
Maybe I'm not understanding your setup but are you actually achieving over 1-Gigabit/Sec throughout your home?
Yes but only on my PCs.
Do you have network switches that support over 1-Gigabit/Sec?
Yes. A few 10g connected through wired backhaul mostly. I do have the capabilities for MoCA 2.5.
Do your PCs or Macs have Ethernet ports that can deliver over 1-Gigabit/Sec?
Not my Macs - Mac Mini M2 can't. I have a couple of PCs I built that can. I'm running Linux BTW.
If you do, then you do in fact have the networking infrastructure to support faster than 1-Gigabit/Sec service from your ISP. Most of us don't so paying for anything over 1-Gibabit/Sec would be a waste.
As I've measured, yes. I agree, if you can't use it why pay for it.
Even if I had Xfinity 2-Gbs/sec service I would never see that on any of my devices as the hardware is all capped at 1-Gigabit/Sec.
WiFi is the wildcard. Can you achieve anything over 1-Gigabit/Sec over your WiFi? I'm on Xfinity 800 Mbs/sec service and I achieve about 930 Mbs over Ethernet and around 600 Mbs/sec over WiFi depending on where I'm at in the house.
Currently the only devices that take advantage of the 2.5 network are hardware I'm built. I'm currently running Wifi 7 with MLO on a quad band mesh, so 2.4g, 5g, and two 6g channels. On my wireless devices I'm seeing ~850 - 900 Mbs connected to a wireless mesh. I have segregated my 2.4G traffic to it's own network. Two of my 4 nodes are using wireless backhaul. Where I need faster networking (my Linux machines) are attached. I didn't mention it but I'm also using CAT8 for the non-MoCA backhaul.
To your point, using the faster network for Roku (awful networking), AppleTV, IPhones, Ipads is a waste.
I have two separate implementations of the network, my office and the house. I'm running Wifi 7 with MLO and everything is directly attached to a 10G switch using CAT 8. I don't run wireless in my office and the office is separate from my house. Early on, mostly because of the development I was doing I was worried my son might development a third eye or something, so I moved my work area to it's own unattached building.
I'm more curious about what you're able to achieve over WiFi.
Hope that answers your questions?
Thanks for the detailed response! I understood maybe 90% of it but I haven't researched Wifi 7 or MLO, or VLANs for home networks.
If I'm understanding correctly Wifi is unidirectional (send or receive but not both at the same time) and I think MLO solves that limitation but I'm not sure if MLO came about with Wifi 7. Most folks (like me) are barely transitioned to Wifi 6.
Thanks!
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