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AbeCollins

In Reply to: RE: Despite all odds... posted by E-Stat on February 12, 2024 at 16:27:09

Did they ever update LMS to run on the current Synology DiskSystem Manager DSM 7.2 operating system? I know that your NAS will support it as we both have the same Synology models and I'm running DSM 7.2. I think DSM 6.x came out about 8 years ago.

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Yep! - E-Stat 12:12:22 02/13/24 (18)
Don't think my version of LMS was updated for newer version of PERL.

Still happily running old but solid code. Using mirrored SSDs for one user. ;)
- RE: Yep! - Rod M 18:50:27 02/13/24 (17)
  If it ain't broke....
  
  I'm still running Windows 7 on my PC and it's dead solid.
  
  My worst is Apple. Any upgrade in the OS is likely going to break any custom software or even other software that is main stream.
  
  Newer versions of Perl very rarely, ever break old code. Between ports from distribution or cpan, it's easy to build anything you need for custom stuff as well.
  
  -Rod
  - Same experience - E-Stat 06:51:45 02/14/24 (10)
    I'm still running Windows 7 on my PC and it's dead solid.
    
    While no longer my primary PC, I continue to use a 2010 Dell Studio running Win7 for many duties. It just works.
    
    My worst is Apple. Any upgrade in the OS is likely going to break any custom software or even other software that is main stream.
    
    One feature I really enjoy running a MacMini is the ability to text from it as though I was using my phone. Upgrading to Sonoma broke it. Runs for a day or so then the Messages app disappears and fails to work until you reboot. I had hoped it would be fixed but remains broken at 14.2.1.
    - Different experience - tlea 07:27:23 02/14/24 (9)
      I also enjoy receiving and sending text messages from my MacMini and MB Air so that I can use the real keyboard and larger screen for images. Both are running Sonoma 14.2.1 and the Message program works as it did before updating. The program does have to be actively running when the message comes in. It will not go back and retrieve messages from the past. I have it set to start up on login to deal with that. I don't think Apple is to blame for your problem. Start by experimenting with your power management settings (sleep, hibernate, etc).
      
      Regarding software updates, I find that the apps that don't keep up with OS patches usually turn out to be outdated in other ways as well. I've lost a few along the way that I miss, but there always seems to be a workaround.
      
      Unfortunately cybersecurity is a real thing, even at the home-user level.
      
      . . . in theory, practice and theory are the same; in practice, they are different . . .
      - Don't think you understand - E-Stat 07:41:51 02/14/24 (8)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Different experience posted by tlea on February 14, 2024 at 07:27:23
        
        I don't think Apple is to blame for your problem.
        Sure it is! Worked flawlessly for years . That abruptly changed with Sonoma.
        Start by experimenting with your power management settings (sleep, hibernate, etc).
        No changes there. Never had "Power Nap" enabled. Just irritating to force a reboot every other day or so to maintain functionality.
        Sonoma Message failure (Open in New Window)
        
        Edits: 02/14/24
        
        OK - tlea 07:58:12 02/14/24 (7)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Don't think you understand posted by E-Stat on February 14, 2024 at 07:41:51
        
        So you are saying that the only conceivable cause for your issue is the 5 month old Sonoma update, even when it didn't affect others like me?
        
        Successful troubleshooting doesn't work that way.
        
        . . . in theory, practice and theory are the same; in practice, they are different . . .
        
        Issue began abruptly following update - E-Stat 08:29:21 02/14/24 (6)
        
        In Reply to: RE: OK posted by tlea on February 14, 2024 at 07:58:12
        
        and remains problematic for not only me but others on the linked report.
        
        Once Messages "disappears", attempting to reset results in "Unknown Error" occurred.
        
        No issues with mine. Works great as it did before - AbeCollins 16:09:32 02/14/24 (5)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Issue began abruptly following update posted by E-Stat on February 14, 2024 at 08:29:21
        
        I'm running :
        
        Here's what I get trying to get back in after the app disappears... - E-Stat 19:33:24 02/14/24 (4)
        
        In Reply to: RE: No issues with mine. Works great as it did before posted by AbeCollins on February 14, 2024 at 16:09:32
        
        RE: Here's what I get trying to get back in after the app disappears... - AbeCollins 22:19:20 02/14/24 (3)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Here's what I get trying to get back in after the app disappears... posted by E-Stat on February 14, 2024 at 19:33:24
        
        I dunno. You could try reinstalling the OS. There should be an option in Recovery to reinstall w/o deleting or overwriting your user software and files. If that doesn't work you could try a Google search.
        
        14.3.1 seems to have fixed the bug -nt - E-Stat 06:49:19 02/29/24 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Here's what I get trying to get back in after the app disappears... posted by AbeCollins on February 14, 2024 at 22:19:20
        
        Excellent - nt - AbeCollins 07:26:01 03/02/24 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: 14.3.1 seems to have fixed the bug -nt posted by E-Stat on February 29, 2024 at 06:49:19
        
        .
        
        Too drastic an approach - E-Stat 06:23:18 02/15/24 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Here's what I get trying to get back in after the app disappears... posted by AbeCollins on February 14, 2024 at 22:19:20
        
        I can wait for the fix many experience. More of a nuisance than anything.
  - RE: Yep! - AbeCollins 06:19:51 02/14/24 (5)
    I believe Synology moved on to newer Perl with some modern security fixes. Unfortunately it is not compatible with what LMS is built on so Synology users are forced to stay on DSM 6.x which lacks many cool RAID related features and performance gains. Faster failed disk rebuilds being one. But if all the NAS is being used for is LMS I suppose that's not an issue.
    
    I don't run any 'custom software' on my Macs and they are all running the latest macOS. The developers responsible for the sw I run have all kept up. There are of course occasional bug fixes along the way but nothing out of the ordinary for any platform.
    - RE: Yep! - Cut-Throat 09:04:09 02/14/24 (1)
      PiCorePlayer Developers aren't interested in getting LMS to run on Any NAS Systems. In fact they recommend that you don't do it. And their number one recommendation to run LMS on is a simple Raspberry Pi - Model #4 at Present Time.
      
      The quickness of response of a Raspberry Pi over the NAS running LMS is Not with a Music Library Scan, it is with running LMS itself. Switching screens, selecting music tracks etc. -- The speed is noticed in one off mouse clicks, rather the 'Batch Processing' of an entire Music Library Scan.
      - Gee - E-Stat 13:40:00 02/14/24 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Yep! posted by Cut-Throat on February 14, 2024 at 09:04:09
        
        The speed is noticed in one off mouse clicks, rather the 'Batch Processing' of an entire Music Library Scan.
        
        I get instantaneous response doing anything with iPeng (or Material Skin) accessing the server SSDs.
        
        There used to be an occasional delay/buffering issue in the garage but current access point delivers 193 down / 180 up.
        
        I'll complicate things should I find a reason. Maybe just move it to the Mac.
    - I can imagine - E-Stat 07:04:42 02/14/24 (2)
      Faster failed disk rebuilds being one. But if all the NAS is being used for is LMS I suppose that's not an issue.
      
      how the degraded performance and lengthy rebuild time for RAID 5/6 arrays using spinning rust would negatively affect folks using those systems.
      
      In the past five years, I've only needed to rebuild a disk once - when I replaced my old drives with SSDs. Rebuilding the mirror took two hours while performance was unaffected. The NAS is used to store all our data - music, videos, pictures, financial documents, backups of other computers, manuals, etc.
      
      Non-issue for me. Just like those who say LMS would run *faster* if I used an RPi as server. Last rescan for new content took a whopping fifteen seconds . Reminds me of Brian Regan's bit about microwaving Pop Tarts. My schedule just isn't that tight! ;)
      
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      - Faster rebuild is but one of many benefits of newer DSM - nt - AbeCollins 14:35:16 02/15/24 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I can imagine posted by E-Stat on February 14, 2024 at 07:04:42
        
        .
        
        I've read all the release notes - E-Stat 13:22:23 02/16/24 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Faster rebuild is but one of many benefits of newer DSM - nt posted by AbeCollins on February 15, 2024 at 14:35:16
        
        Which feature(s) in particular provide value to you?
        
        Note that I am not really one of their intended customers. It isn't in a multi-user environment with user based resource allocations. I don't need petabytes of storage or multiple independently configured storage pools. I don't need remote monitoring. Nor enhanced password management or pretty diagrams of the two drives.
        
        Honestly, I spend very little time in DSM. Most file tasks are done using Mac Finder.

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