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In Reply to: RE: Ergo... Constrained layered damping has yielded superb results in my experience _nT posted by Cleantimestream on July 01, 2024 at 09:09:43
I've tried it and compared it to panel to panel bracing. Bracing was more effective, and resulted in a lighter weight cabinet.
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The answer is to use both. The bracing raises the resonant frequency of the panels. The constrained layer damping reduces the intensity and duration of the resonances.
I didn't find constrained layers with bracing to work any better than bracing alone. Raising the panel resonant frequency is a side effect of bracing, but in and of itself doesn't reduce panel vibrations. No matter what the panel resonance frequency if the internal pressure isn't enough to cause the panel to vibrate it doesn't matter. Adequate bracing alone accomplishes that. So does mass, and mass doesn't raise the panel frequency, it lowers it. Knowing how these different methods compare requires building cabs of the same dimensions of each configuration and then measuring the results. That's not something the average builder is going to do, but since I make my living designing speakers it's something I had to do to be sure of which delivers the best result.
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What you need at minimum are two materials with very different sound velocities bonded together.
Hello Tom, the Hilti smoke caulk IS the 3rd {the glue} this caulk Never dries and is quite expensive.
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except every thing I've read says it's better to raise resonance. Plus some very well received speakers use constrained layer damping such as Q audio(Fink designed) and Fink speakers> And the Fink company is considered one of the best out there having produced a ton of award winning speakers for decades.
Yes, a lot of places say that. But it's not raising the resonance that stops the panels from vibrating, it's making them stiffer. When you make them stiffer it also raises the resonance, but that's just a byproduct. If raising the resonance was what really mattered we'd make all of our speakers from eighth inch plywood. And yes, constrained layer is one way of doing it. It's just not the way I prefer to use, based on having compared all the options.
You realize that raising the resonance and stiffer are the same thing?
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