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In Reply to: RE: Tom Evans Audio Fiasco posted by fstein on December 10, 2024 at 20:14:27
For those of us who do not do YouTube.
Follow Ups:
Kal, this is what was posted via the YouTube and apparently what fstein sold.
P.S. This guy is well known worldwide for his Mac repair videos and his support for right-to-repair laws. Apple (and other brands) must now make parts and technical documents available for 3rd parties to more easily perform repairs.
Edits: 12/11/24
I still don't know what it is all about.
A British guy has an electronics repair YT channel and someone sent him this Tom Evans pre-amp to fix. I am not sure of the exact symptoms but it received a fair bit of damage during shipping.
The video was an interesting watch, figuring out how to open the case and then seeing inside a vista that does not say 'this is worth 25k'. A lot of small boards wired together. Anyway the guy reverse engineers it, finds the original problem and fixes that and then he does a good job fixing up the cracked and broken acrylic case. And he is a very affable bloke so I enjoyed watching. Now, it seems, that video has been taken down by a copyright infringement, YT won't explain - but, presumably Tom Evans is behind the complaint as he won't want people to see how not-worth 25k that preamp is and, by extension, any of his other products.
Edits: 12/11/24
The story is that several people who bought the statement preamp from Evans based on the sound of this unworthy plastic now are put in the position of cuckholds by Mike the fixer.
The customer who originally bought it (for unknown price from unstated source) sent it to Evans shop for repair. The case (which is not as cheap as it may seem ) got damaged in the transit due to poor packing which is typical for Brits. They don't usually ship anything. Because the preamp is a luxury item the price for repair was high (as expected).After all 20 cents resistor change in that Audio Research "pride and Joy " have costed me $656 .
The customer refused to pay and asked Tom Evans to send the unit to Mark the youtuber fixer. Now ,Evans must be in the age bracket of AA SYLUM dwellers so he had no idea what he was getting into.
Mark the fixer reverse engineered the circuit of his statement phono stage and a Milk Cow of his little business and posted everything on that Youtube channel making a fool of an old Evans and dicks of his customers.
Now you guys who supposed to know better add to the choir of online idiots
because most probably you're on the same level of consciousness. Pickup trucks and Mac Mansions mentality is directing your audio purchases which results in the shit of your systems in general.
For that matter, exposés are nothing new. What exactly did Mark the Fixer say that wasn't true?
Apart from those with more money than brains, (of which that are many apparently), we should all know that SOTA phono preamps can be had for well under a grand. But if you want to buy an ARC or Macintosh at least you get something properly hung together.
I feel sorry neither Evans nor this customers; it's Mark and/or whoever else was bullied to pull the video that I feel sorry for.
Dmitri Shostakovich
Evans should have embroiled his Tupperware plastic boxes with diamonds and Sapphires for customers of such depth like you guys so you can feel the money worth. Also he should include a monthly ticket to a Burger King and one Disneyland trip.
nt
Dmitri Shostakovich
Do you know realities of a one man show artisanal production shop of some world wide recognition who apparently does not have a desire to make masses happy?
By the time he makes that one crappy "statement" product he can probably make five cheaper ones or thirty of his budget ones. If the shop takes a repair job than it doesn't assemble units for sale.
Part of the benefit of being rich and in possession of almost unlimited resources is ability to spend the money on things we like without concern of a price tag.
(Methinks) There are very few people who offer something special in any field. I have no experience with Evans products whatsoever, but he may be one of them at least to some people. But it is offending to people like you because in your opinion everybody deserves that quality and it should cost max $1k and if you can't have it nobody else should have it either.
The problem of Americans expressed in threads like "wretched excess" is that as long as they were kings of the hills and their checkbooks could afford the top line of the consumer goods they were not concerned with that excess. Times changed and they can't get used to the fact the top of the line is beyond their reach.
I would never remotely have considered any Tom Evans product.
When I first became interested in "hi-fi" 50+ years ago, the ostensible reason was to achieve high fidelity , (accurate), sound. My experience since then has demonstrated to my ears that contemporary high-accuracy equipment sounds the best.
If SOTA accuracy is what you want you can get a phono preamp or preamp for ~$1000 and an amp for ~$2000-$3000. Once you get into delusional euphonics rather than accuracy, there is not limit.
As far as phono preamps go, I bought my last vinyl disc about 30 year ago; I last listened to a LP perhaps 15 years ago. Vinyl is very far from SOTA hi-fi sound today.
Dmitri Shostakovich
Who accurately reproduce orchestra from contemporary budget equipment using two boxes outputting the sound.
It does make life easier but audio hobby is not about that. I can get the same result you're getting buying contemporary car. No need to spend on home audio
he's a numbers guy focused upon irrelevant metrics.
The current hobbyists are 10% personal euphonics vs. accuracy and 90% self-delusion.
Dmitri Shostakovich
when I engaged in dealing and wheeling, "tradin upgradin" and now I only buy "objects" which are interesting design wise or are a spit in the face of a checkbook audiophile type.
I emailed Tom Evans asking him about his side version. He said that although he was irked by the light in which his device was presented and the fact that they were "only" getting 10K of the retail price and dealer was getting 15k but the flack of 25k price tag outrage was only theirs, the real reason he requested the takedown of the video was that Mend it Mark after he created that reverse engineered service manual has made a file out of it and started to sell that file on a side for 240 pounds each to interested parties. That's what folk heroes of this type usually do and it only requires a glimpse of Man it Mark to know it.
You conveniently forgot the legal threats and bullying by Tom Evans directed at YouTuber "Mend it Mark". He runs an instructional channel on electronics repair. It's also very cheesy that Tom Evans sands and scrapes part numbers off of several 'off-the-shelf' electronic components used in his products.
This thing is blowing up all over YouTube with several "Mend it Mark" supporters reposting and even commenting under Tom Evans equipment review videos.
Who is this "Mike the fixer" in your first sentence ?
Legal threats are absolutely validated and youtube influencer ( Mark, Mike - little difference) should be left with nothing but underwear after this is over.
The plebeians expressing their rage ( because they can't afford the phono so nobody else has a right to afford it ) can suck it up
.
On this price level but so typical in US.
a manufacturer is uncomfortable showing their gear butt nekid.
ARC uses acrylic covers on some models as part of the electrical design. This from their website:
Always agreed with this, and particularly at the prices this stuff commands. Makes me wonder, what are they hiding? A couple of examples are the original Merrill Veritas NC1200 amps, which were probably like every other NC1200 amp in any meaningful way, and currently the expensive sand cast aluminum Cinnamon Galle DAC, to name but two.
Edits: 12/21/24
nt
see now its a Tom Evans.
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