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https://aes2.org/events-calendar/2025-aes-international-conference-on-diversity-equity-and-inclusion/
Seriously?!
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We are inclusive and diverse, but dissent will not be tolerated.
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I've read the replies so far, and appreciate the comments!
Some people want to argue/debate political ideology. Fine, but that's not the point here.
The point here is, is it, and should it be, a priority for the Audio Engineering Society to have conferences which are fundamentally not audio related, but, rather, politically oriented?
For many many decades, the Audio Engineering Society has been the organization for audio professionals to share, discuss and showcase new research, circuit designs, measurement techniques, equipment, hearing and acoustics of spaces, etc.
Now, they're promoting DEI, which is clearly not audio-related.
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We are inclusive and diverse, but dissent will not be tolerated.
No business person dealing with employees or co-workers wants to have to deal with lawsuits. The possibility of monetary loss is the primary motivator of "woke' consciousness, at least in the workplace.
Don't you feel most "awake" when you're thinking about protecting your wallet, or your assets in general ? If you do feel this way, don't feel bad. Just blame it on evolution.
You're still, after all these years, just another primate living in a cave. Didn't you know that ?
To the AES, audiophiles are dinosaurs who will soon be extinct and leave only our own KT boundary of compressed Jazz records and tube amps. I suspect most of AES business is about music creation, production and live events that appeal to the younger and creative types who are likely to be diverse (even though playing with electronics is primarily a male trait). And people like going on a jolly to the sunshine.
and therefore WOKE is a meaningless word. these politically correct stances will eventually affect ALL organizations so just buck up. don't be so thin skinned.
...regards...tr
.., sententiously silly. All at once whilst amongst other things, besides.That's too many annoying features for one smugly compact word... How'd dey do dat ?
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the definition as found in Merriam-Webster.
Wow, it makes me feel very proud when I humbly agree. It's quite amazing.
Nothing wrong with being aware of and sensitive to social and political issues but being labeled as Woke has become more of an insult in recent times.
Woke has a very long historical past with much broader meaning now. IMHO it and the movement has become too much in-your-face and almost deserves to be considered an insult.
If you're not far-right and don't vote far-right does that make you Woke?
You mean you really don't want to know the sexual preferences and relationship status of everyone you are around?
J.
and let it run off like water off a duck's keester, it will frustrate the perpetrator of the epithet. few of them can give a meaningful definition of the term.
still WOKE and AWAKE, and ALIVE.
...regards...tr
....it's not meaningless because it refers to 'discrimination and social injustice'.
The point... here on General it has NO meaning whatsoever, and any certifiably Stupid People who use the word should take their plentitude of meaningless posts over to 'Inmate Central' where they belong and spume their pointless drivel (because they are high on drugs, alcohol, or any illegal substances).
Some will listen - others never learn
Central was actually a very congenial place at one time, since there was "Outside" for people who wanted to interact in that fashion. When Outside was shut down, they all migrated to the Water Cooler, then when that was closed, Inmate Central was the next casualty. I deleted my profile for a few years because of it, then recently decided to reinstate it under the same user name because there are a few highly knowledgeable people who hang out here that are very gracious about sharing their expertise. JM was one of those, and I for one was disappointed to see him leave. In any case, it seems not much has changed other than the traffic is less than it once was.
Might not be a bad idea.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
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Your interest may vary but the results will be same. (Byrd 2020)
I can't compete with the dead. (Buck W. 2010)
Cowards can't be heroes. (Byrd 2017)
Why don't catfish have kittens? (Moe Howard 1937)
Or AES conferences on how How To Pay Less Than Minimum Wage In A High Tech Workplace and/or Leveraging The Safety Net?
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NT
it will be a great day for audio!
all the best,
mrh
:)
of objectivist and observationalist. It's been long established that both are needed.
Measurements are great where there is demonstrated correlation to what we hear. I use frequency based ones for positioning speakers, room traps and setting EQ where necessary. I find LCR cable metrics useful as well where the goal is lowest EDC.
Others like SINAD have proven to fail providing qualitative knowledge.
or both? That would be diverse :)
never been a gang member.
If pressed, however, I vote for Team Natalie Wood as she was quite the looker. ;)
We're a community who listen to music made by an incredibly diverse world of musicians. Record shops, including all five of my local shops, often have diverse staff. ...Yet I have rarely seen an equally diverse staff in _audio_ shops or among the engineers/designers/manufacturers. I'd love it if that were to change. It's past time to wake up and join the 21st century. The Loyal Order of Moose and the like became irrelevant in good part because they were an old white boys' club.
The horror of diversity, equality and inclusion.
I agree with Chuck. -listen-paradoxically seems threatened by the idea of diversity.
"Yet I have rarely seen an equally diverse staff in _audio_ shops or among the engineers/designers/manufacturers. I'd love it if that were to change. It's past time to wake up and join the 21st century. The Loyal Order of Moose and the like became irrelevant in good part because they were an old white boys' club."
Thanks for your racist comment! I guess those "old white boys" must know something about engineering/audio. Please walk with me into any big city ghetto so we can visit all the hi-end audio stores which proliferate there!
I know "old whites," I know "white boys," but oddly enough never met an "old white boy!"
You come across as someone "proud" of your DIE brainwashing, yet fail to see how offensive and racist YOU are!
My lifelong friends come in all colors and nationalities just like the music I listen to - in BEAUTIFUL HARMONY!
I feel so sorry for your greatly diminished existence!
Seriously???
NT
I expect the organizer is from the mid-west looking for a few days in San Diego.
Of course, you never know. Bunch of senile oldsters suffering from "Long-Covid" complications...
Nt
be nice to the one 'lady' audiophile, but not 'too' nice, or else you'll get in trouble. However, if she can lift the Krell amplifier all by herself, just let her use whichever bathroom she wishes.
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