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Boy, am I coming late to this party! I stumbled upon a Toshiba SD-9200 DVD-A in a thrift store for $47, and it works perfectly. Well, nothing is perfect. It did not come with a remote control. I scrounged a Toshiba remote, but it is not the correct one and does not have the button to turn off the video for audio only playback. (The correct one is SER-0035). From what I have read, the video is nothing to write home about compared with modern players, so my plans are for this to be an audio only player. With high quality Redbook, HDCD and DVD-A playback, I think I can make good use of it. My question is, is there any way of turning off the video, without the correct remote? Is this feature just a dog an pony show that I should not worry about?
I have just secured a small monitor for my listening room so I can work the menu. (I did not have a TV in my listening room before.) I have downloaded the manual. Any suggestions would be helpful.
I am also interested in what you guys think of the quality of this machine (good or bad). Listening to Redbook trough my test bench Hafler 101 preamp driving Grado SR60 headphones sounded very good. I am eager to get it up and running. I sure does seem to be very well built.
My system is posted and up to date if you are interested.
The remote is available through New Remotes Inc. for $19.95. http://www.electronicadventure.us/toshiba.htm?gclid=COqO8t7T1KoCFUHe4Aod0l6a0w
Has anyone dealt with this company?
TIA!
Dave
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You'll never hear any difference anyway. Play it and enjoy it...
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I've always lusted over the 9200's after I heard one at a friends house. It actually got a Class A rating in Stereophile (even at $1900 list, it was by far the cheapest Class A disc player). But there was a notorious problem with the 9200 drive mechanism that often required replacement with an updated washer or something like that, which could be had at one time for $19 but Toshiba denied the original was defective. Perhaps you got one of the good ones.
So instead I collected Denon 2900 and 5900's, only to find that they too are notorious for drive problems that are much more expensive to fix. I've never had one fail but one of my 5900's makes a whine on DVD-Audio discs. Both of my Denon models allow video shutdown through front panel control, but the control itself is best programmed through menu.
DVD-Audio is a great format for good sound, for the limited titles in which it is available. The format was always avoided by Sony (which had rival format SACD, and later Blu Ray) and marred by watermarking (which sometimes caused players to hang) and the fact that you often have to navigate complicated and tricky (and never standardized) menus to figure out how to get the best Stereo playback. The format promoters thought the format was mainly useful for hirez multichannel..
BTW, I generally like the higher sample rates, PCM48 never seems as good as 96 or 192 MLP, even if the latter require downmixing to stereo (!). That's my experience so far.
Hi Charles,
I just noticed your post. I did have to screw around with the transport. I also work on cars and like cars, I suspect a lot of parts get replaced when all they needed was adjustments.
Most likely I have the updated washer since my unit is still functioning. I got my money's worth in sound quality even with the units quirks. I suspect these things will be showing up in thrift stores because for video, they are obsolete.
There is nothing wrong with Denon. I have always liked their stuff! If I had stumbled on a Denon, that is what I would have bought.
Dave
Agreed,
this Toshiba and an early Panasonic DVD-A player(s) were quite good.
Thanks! for sharing Charles.
I found a dual sided Pat Metheny group at a thrift store for $1. The sound is very impressive. Redbook also sounds great on this thing. It is walking all over my Nad CD player, which is still think is a good player. I think there still if fun to be had with DVD-A, particularly if I can get disks at prices like this.
Dave
There's no reason that DVD-A had to be connected at the hip with video. While there are a few players out there that don't use video in their players, the vast majority do. Anything audiophile is a niche market and DVD-A tried to tie in with DVD-V, a venue audiophiles prefer not to incorporate into audio. This was the double-whammy that doomed it to failure. Tout higher quality audio, something that only audiophiles, a very small market, would appreciate because the masses couldn't care less about it, but make the format dependant on video, something which audiophiles desire so little association. Still not done, the majority of the labels urinated on the audio by lacing it with watermarking in the analog stream.
I was selling audio equipment in the 80's and I think that audio companies did too good a job then in convincing the public that CD sound was perfect. When DVD came out, the pubic assumed the same. I think the general public was very skeptical about the idea that CD sound could be improved upon and is far more interested in things like Dolby surround, and getting "near CD sound" out of their MP3. Most would doubt that they could hear the difference. The fact that you had two competing systems did not help.
I did manage to find a Pat Matheny DVD-A disk for $1 at a thrift store, so this really may be the best time to get into DVD-A! Plus this thing does really nice Redbook. I have been buying a lot of really nice CD's for $1. I was just listening to the Essential Santana. The mix seem much more base heavy that I remember the vinyl, but it did not stop the music form getting to me. It went beyond toe-taping to full-on get-up-and-dance! I had forgotten how good he is. I think I got my dollar's worth. If you haven't guessed already, I am having fun with this thing!
Dave
Dave,
are you playing the dual-disc(s) on your Toshiba? If so, any problems with playback?
The one I have (Dave Matthews Band, "Stand Up") seems to be playing fine, but I need to double check after reading the Stereophile review. I checked the menu last night and could not find anything to activate DVD-A. I will check the owners manual tonight. The DVD-A Side sounded better than the CD side but both played fine. I have not tried it in my NAD CD player.Last Friday the Toshiba stopped reading disks. I decided it was time to "grow a set" and popped the top to clean the lens and the rails. (I had never done this before.) After the cleaning it still did not read disks, so I watched the operation. I saw that the laser was not moving so I looked at the plastic gears. One was not meshing. I pushed it up with a jeweler's screwdriver and everything now works fine!
Dave
Edits: 09/06/11
Great score! This was a great dvd-a machine upon its release. POst some pics!
I will see if I can borrow a digital camera. The build quality is outrageous. Here is what my machine looks like (but it is not my machine). You could also get it in silver but I was not given a choice.
Dave
Great looking player! Play it Loud!
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