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In Reply to: RE: "All listening was via 2ch analog outs from the players." posted by Kal Rubinson on August 19, 2009 at 12:59:45
Well, perhaps. I've heard the Oppo on multi-channel via HDMI, just not in my room on my gear. It meets or exceeds expectations. Put another way, it does a great job of delivering multi-channel fidelity with all the aural dysfunction intrinsic to the 5.1 and 7.1 sonic schema. If you like multi-channel, the Oppo 83 will do nothing to disappoint you and much to impress, though it will be a bit less explosively dynamic than an Elite BDP-09.
Phil
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"If you like multi-channel, the Oppo 83 will do nothing to disappoint you and much to impress, though it will be a bit less explosively dynamic than an Elite BDP-09."
Not less via HDMI.
Having heard both on the same movie via HDMI, I have to disagree. The Pioneer 09 is the audibly (though not by a big margin) more explosively dynamic deck. Of course, this is audio, so others -- someone, somewhere -- may disagree.
Phil
You must be saying the BDP-83 is dropping bits or something similar to restrict dynamic range, if you are suggesting the *players* sound different with the same BD source track bitstream, and presumably compared into the same HDMI receiver. I would *really* like to hear what Oppo has to say about that... Personally, I don't buy it for a second.
I didn't say the Oppo is restricting dynamic range. I said it is a bit less explosively dynamic than the BDP-09, even via HDMI. I don't know why and haven't bothered to investigate further because it's damned good the way it is. The dynamic *range* via HDMI is likely identical -- i.e. not dropping bits. But the jump factor is a shade less propulsive. For the difference in cost, not a criticism, just an observation. The Oppo is good enough I am considering moving it to my main system for the simple reason that the BDP-09 doesn't play SACD and DVD-A, and I have more room for an additional universal player for audio in my secondary system. -Phil
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