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In Reply to: RE: DVD video standard posted by vinjonman on May 30, 2007 at 05:12:47
<< Am I missing something here? >>
No. The people that were missing something were the idiots who dreamed up DVD-Audio in the first place. If they had left well enough alone and not mucked up the market place with DVD-Audio and SACD, there *might* have been a shift to the DVD-Video format for audio releases. You have to remember that there are two factors at play here:
a) What the public will actually pay for.
b) How much money can the software companies make.
In the case of DVD-Audio and SACD, the software companies never had a prayer of making any money because there never was a large enough installed base of players. It's about as much as a pipedream as selling pre-recorded reel-to-reel tapes.
The real driving force behind DVD-Audio and SACD was the fact that the patents on CD were expiring. Sony/Philips were making around $1,000,000,000 per year on CD royalties before the patents expired, and most of that was from software (not hardware). They didn't want to see that source of free money go away, so they invented SACD. The other hardware companies wanted to own the money stream, so they invented DVD-Audio. Both sides were hoping to replace CD altogether. Both sides were smoking crack cocaine.
On the other hand, DVD-Video has a large enough installed base of players that condition (b) could be satisfied. It also offered some advantages for the software companies, principally the fact that it is quite a bit harder (though not impossible) to duplicate a copy-protected DVD-Video disc than a CD.
There were two factors working against this shift. First is that for most people, there really isn't any compelling advantage for the extra capabilities of DVD-Video over CD. Most people don't really care about higher resolution or multi-channel music. Second is that it costs around $0.25 to mass-produce a CD (including the case and insert). It costs about twice as much to mass-produce a DVD. Since the buying public didn't really care about the extra features, they wouldn't pay more for a music DVD than a CD, therefore there wasn't any way for the software companies to make extra money by shifting to DVD-Video. By their calculations, they would lose more money from the added manufacturing costs than they would gain by reducing copying.
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great summary :: and we wonder why formats fail.....
will 24/96 downloads be the answer? Will we eventually see every album and every single priced according to resolution from say $.99 to $1.99?
Excellent summary.
The parallels with the advent of hi-rez video (HD-DVD, blu-ray) are only too obvious. I've read that DVD sales peaked and started to decline, hence new hi-rez video formats were rolled out. What are the royalty issues associated with DVDs?
Nonetheless, I see benefit in watching movies at home in a higher resolution. I'll just wait until "universal" video players have the bugs worked out, and drop in price.
and sold over and over again, never have i seen a more concise analysis of the subject, BTW this is the reason why downloaded music will rule, no matter how bad it sounds. It gives the software companies tools to resell us the same crap over and over again.
dee
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True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class is running the country.Kurt Vonnegut
...been a matter of getting you to buy your music collection all over again. period. It is like shampoo...lather, rinse, repeat.....
How old will I be before I come of age for you?
< < It has ALWAYS been a matter of getting you to buy your music collection all over again. period. > >
The record companies discovered this trick when they introduced CD's. (Which, by the way, made them the fat, lazy failures they are now.) But for every other format transition (cylinder to 78, 78 to 45, 45 to LP, LP to cassette, et cetera) this wasn't the case.
< < It is like shampoo...lather, rinse, repeat.... > >
When I was hospitalized after my accident, it was 5 weeks before they could prop me up in a (waterproof) wheelchair and give me a shower. When I washed my hair it felt so great that I did it again. I actually followed the instructions! (The only time I've ever done so, at least with regards to shampoo.)
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