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In Reply to: RE: Sampling music posted by psgary on May 10, 2024 at 13:49:48
Ok, I think I've got you now after reading your follow ups. And I'm pretty sure I said each to their own taste somewhere!
Well, you used the word "detestable", which is kind of loaded, but didn't specify the menu experience, not the sound quality. I agree, if all I had was the menu on my SB Touch/LMS "app" it wouldn't be the greatest way to view and select music. Using Qobuz via ROON is a whole 'nother level though. I have a teeny MB Pro screen and it gives me all I want, someone like Abe Colliins here with the monster screen can see his collection from across the room!
I've got 2 bad knees and 2 bad eyes. It's really hard for me to get up and go over to my CD collection (somewhere between yours and Mali's in quantity) select a disc and then go to the system, put it in, take it out afterwards...so even for discs I have in my collection I just use the streamer. Yes, I could rip etc, but I've had little luck with the results (getting ACCURATE meta-data, etc.) and Qobuz is pretty flawless. The only album they haven't had (so far) is the Lintu/Sibelius I mentioned (but for 1 track from The Legends), and that's too bad, it is superb!
Oh, and for ME anyway, listening on the big system tells me much more about the music than through my crappy MB Pro speakers, or even headphones plugged into it.
Now, tell me more about those Anti-Cables, quale et la differenza between levels 1, 2, 3 & 4? I need (yes wife, need, I'm relocating speakers and I need a new 10 or 12 ft. pair). What's a good spot to land in that lineup for someone that isn't a cable freak (hey, no insult meant to cable freaks) and can't discern much difference between cables? Guess you can add two bad ears to the knees and eyes. I think I looked at them and they weren't crazy expensive, and I don't think I've heard a bad word about them around here.
Have a great weekend, I see you're in SoCal, I'm here up North where it's going to be a bit blistering for several days.
Follow Ups:
Sibelius -
Nice to know we're not in any conflict. You have your reasons why CDs don't work as well for you now and also understand my preference for "perfect sound forever".
You're right. Detestable was a bit loaded, and I wondered about using it at the time. It would also have helped for me to give details as to why the word was used.
The display on the streamer I used was a bit similar to what you show, but I prefer what you see on your screen. I just don't like sifting through so many choices. I tend to eat the same things and that applies to listening. Once I find a recording I like, it tends to become the go-to version, even though I tend to have multiple versions of classical works. For pop music, Billy Joel is Billy Joel and no one else will do.
As for the AntiCable speaker wires, they are highly recommended. Dollar for dollar a real bargain. Given your description, for a second system, two seems to fit the bill. For the price, Level 2 would give your system a boost without boosting the cost as much. Would the Level 3 sound better? Probably, but I wouldn't spend the money if I were setting up a second system. The Level 2 wires aren't as stiff, which can be a benefit, depending on where the system is going. Hope that helps.
The main reason I initially tried the Level 2 speaker wires was due to the fact that the AntiCables can be different lengths to each speaker. One of my speakers is about 4 feet away and the other is 12. With cables that have to be of the same length, it makes for a problem of what to do with the extra 8 feet on one side.
Where are you in NorCal? I'm in Palm Springs, but lived several years near Mt. Shasta and in Chico.
Thanks for the comments.
Merry listening to all and to all a good night.
Bingo !!
Conflicts, nah, just appreciate civilized conversations about trying to get the most out of our music and equipment. I think it's great we all have options that give us opportunities. Heck, long ago I even bought a REALLY (for the time anyway) expensive TT and cart. Was convinced that was the way to go for pure music. It was, for awhile, but that takes some serious dedication and effort, and two babies later I had neither. Now it sits under a layer of thick dust, waiting to be sold or traded off!
I like the album display I get with ROON, it gives me the feel of handling those big record covers with all the liner notes easy to see. One of the things I never cared for about CD's was the teeny print that seems to get smaller and smaller. Sometimes I envy the rock and jazz guys, you're right BJ is BJ, and Coltrane is well a singularity, but hundreds of different versions of Beethoven's Symphony no. 7...it's intimidating. But that's exactly why I like the streaming option, I can usually tell within the first few bars if it's my cuppa'. Opera is even faster, I don't care for singers that don't measure up to my image of the role. I mean, a rotund 50 year old soprano isn't the best performer to play Adina, the sexy siren in L'elisir D'amour, or the sultry Tosca, just doesn't work for me.
So good to learn about those cables. It's actually my primary system I'm moving around. Going from a Brit style compact location to a more spread out, and hopefully more satisfying situation. (Doing some experimentation before I decide to spend a good chunk of change on new bigger speakers) I looked em' up, and two different lengths is EXACTLY what I need for the space, one 10-12' and another, where the other speaker and amp are located, about 4'. Now I'd never mention that over on cables, they'd run me out with my a$$ flaming and beaten to a pulp, so it's good to get info from those, well, less "enthusiastic" if you will about equipment, etc. I mean that as a compliment by the way.
I'm up in Silly Valley, for a few more years at least. I've been to Shasta many times, so much more beautiful FILLED! Never made it to Chico, but my Grandparents had freinds with the ubiquitous almond orchard the region is famous for. Guess if you're in PS you are used to the heat. I melt, and no A/C in my house, maybe this year we'll put it in, of course I say that every year about this same time!
If the wires are for your main system, then it would be a matter of cost. The Level 2 are really good and should take your system up a notch or two. Given that the Level 3s are twice as much, are they worth it? Is the sound twice as good? No. But was double the cost worth it to me? Yes. The improvement offered by Level 3s is not subtle. It is immediate and obvious.But let me emphasize that the Level 2s are clearly worth putting in a system. And since you have the same situation as I do, with the extreme variation in length, I can hardly recommend the AntiCables enough.
Paul Spelt is a great guy and really knows his stuff. He said that with the AntiCables the difference in cable length would make no difference, and he was right. So feel free to e-mail or call to get any questions you might have before you buy. They offer a try-out period, which is the only reason I took a chance on them, so you can hardly go wrong.
Regarding termination, they recommend the banana plugs, and so do I. Mine have spades, which turned out to be difficult to fit on the large posts of my speakers.
Thanks for the compliment on the "enthusiasm". It all depends on what an individual's ears prefer. Nothing else, despite any quibbling on the Forums.
I believe there are a lot of bargains in the high-end world, including AntiCables. A system doesn't have to cost tens of thousands of dollars to be thrilling. One good high-end dealer where I used to hang out had a system in the main listening room that cost $100k or more. I listened several times to it, then went home to my sub-$10k system and was just as satisfied.
As for the Met, I find the wild enthusiasm of the audience odd many times because to my ear it is completely unwarranted. Maybe they just want something to cheer about to justify the cost of the tickets.
For years I took voice lessons from a fabulous teacher, who got me to sing arias, so that gives me a pretty good background to judge voices. Whatever happened to bel canto? So often these days there is too much warbling for my taste. That said, I regard the Met broadcasts as a cultural treasure and hope they continue for decades to come.
Finally, a close friend, with whom I've lost contact, lived for years up in the Glorified Sand area, first in Palo Alto then in Redwood City. His ventures into high-end audio helped get me started.
Please let me know if you get the AntiCables and what you think.
Edits: 05/12/24
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