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In Reply to: RE: "There is certainly no objective measure for it." posted by Dawnrazor on February 22, 2024 at 08:59:08
We're not talking about the soundstage of a stereo system comprised of recording, listening room, speaker placement, and all the reproduction change components.
We're talking about the supposed soundstage created by a single component, versus some other, substitute component.
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Its clear that an individual component in the context of a system can affect the soundstage and imaging in some way but its all in the context of a system. If your speakers don't image will or aren't setup up to image well, how good your dac is probably wont matter too much. If you honestly believe that you can hear one component in a chain you are deluded.
Maybe in the context of the same system, swapping out one component for another can give you a comparison in that system, but it doesn't tell you anything about how those components will behave in another system.
And am I missing something? You are calling me confused about the sort of soundstage being discussed, and yet your ASR holy grail doesn't even measure anything about the soundstage, let alone compare any of its dacs directly in terms of soundstage? And you think it is fake? And somehow I am confused?
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I disagree that how a component performs in a system doesn't tell you anything about how it performs in other systems. This might be true for something like a low powered SET when you put it on a 98dB speaker vs. an 85dB low impedance speaker. But a DAC will maintain it's effect on different systems. As someone who brings things over to other systems I have found the character of sources especially is pretty portable. Are they EXACTLY the same in terms of effect and magnitude? No, but the main traits are preserved.
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