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In Reply to: RE: "certainly one can do better than a topping...." posted by Dawnrazor on October 27, 2023 at 09:41:44
ARe you distinguishing R2R discrete vs. chip? Many of the newer R2R DACs are discrete designs and these I have found have quite different characteristics from Chip R2R (like those from Philips, BB, AD etc.).
Some of the old chip ones are NOS but many are with 8x OVERsampling (different from upsampling) digital filters.
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Yes, that was the "examples that can blur the lines" I was referring to. I only have experience with the chip R2R (NOS Phillips) and not the discreet ones. What is the difference you notice?
Cut to razor sounding violins
THe discrete ones seem to be "coarser" and less refined. They have the grunt and drive of the discrete R2R but don't sacrifice the delicacy that the best new sigma/delta or FPGA DACs do well. That earthy grunt and dynamics from R2R sounds more realistic but only when coupled with refinement...this is where chips like the BB PCM-63 and PCM1704 and AD1865 shine. Also, the late great UltraAnalog D2400A 20 bit DAC module was otherworldly when used correctly.
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