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In Reply to: RE: That dip is . . . not really a dip posted by Doug Schneider on July 18, 2024 at 11:58:48
that his measurement suite fails with large dipoles as well.
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Many things fail with dipoles, including predicted in-room response. Most of the research we've seen is on traditional forward-firing loudspeakers.
Doug
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My audiophile friend has a Diptyque Model 160 set of planar magnetic panels (french). Moved on from custom open baffle bass field coil and field coil horns to the panels.
Using Allnic and Rowland Model 5,. It sounds good to me, except for a tad of lightness in the bass.
I listened to a pair of Diptyque speakers at High End 2023. They were really impressive. We tried to get a pair in for review from the US and the Canadian distributors, but no go. Too bad -- seems like a promising design.
Doug Schneider
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Hi Doug, A friend of mine mas the 160 Diptyque model60, one down from the reference. Using a Rowland Model 5 and an Allnic L10000 or a Musical Fidelity A1. Both sound very good. A little bass shy for me though. Nothing a 6 pack of RELs would not cure. He has the room.
In the usefulness of measurements. Lots of information, yes. Knowledge that correlates with human perception, no.
"In the usefulness of measurements. Lots of information, yes. Knowledge that correlates with human perception, no."
There's actually quite a bit for traditional forward-firing loudspeakers, particularly if you look the Dr. Floyd Toole work from the 1970s onward.
Doug Schneider
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for all speakers is consistent directivity. For which Sound Lab stats excel and many speakers, especially horns, fail.
I clearly remember first hearing the IRS at Sea Cliff in 1980. Dynamic, with wonderful imaging and slam-but the woofer towers really belonged to a different speaker. Older JBLs ran their midrange drivers about an octave too high resulting in a weird hourglass shaped soundstage with upper mids pinched.
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